Wearing of an 8 point cover:



Correct or not?

The front can't come down any further without pushing my glasses down (which it'd already done, see the arm hanging forward of my ear).

The back could be a little higher, although a stiff breeze could then remove it from my head.

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Steve
Corporal in 69th Regt. 1st Batt. Homer’s Heroes.

"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

Wear it however you like Steve, it's your hat mate

Darren

Is that the MAA cover? If so, they went with an old-style 8-point which hasn't been used in... well, years.

Anyways, the "proper" wearing of that cover is rather involved but if it's perched correctly, then the fact you feel it'll blow off is pretty close. The brim should be roughly 2 finger widths above your brow. It sits low on front of the head, shading the eyes, and high on the back of the head.

The rest of the rear top portion of the cover is "bashed" down, leaving the front straight up.

It's kind of hard to explain but it's easy to demonstrate in person. I'd be more than happy to show anyone who cares to learn.

Here's an older picture I posted a while back; my hair's a bit too long but... don't sue me.

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CPL Conley, D. A06/TQ2.0.72147E1



"To err is human; to forgive, divine... Neither of which is Marine Corps policy."
"In Onoraigh Ar Marbh" ~ We Honor Our Fallen

Mine's not that bad then, just need to flatten the top down a bit.

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Steve
Corporal in 69th Regt. 1st Batt. Homer’s Heroes.

"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

Sheesh, the Service has got to make EVERYTHING difficult and convoluted.

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Jay Pennington

Nah... It's about learning to pay strict attention to detail.

Shining your boots, wearing your cover correctly or making sure every last piece of lint is removed from your uniform isn't going to save your life on the battlefield...

But these are the small steps to teaching attention to detail, so that when you do have to do something important (such as fix a jammed rifle) it becomes second nature that you perform the steps without "missing" anything.

At least that's how I understand it.

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I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?!

Kev, attention to detail does save your life on the battlefield, so those same things regarding uniform, honing attention to detail, are helpful in that regard.

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CPL Conley, D. A06/TQ2.0.72147E1



"To err is human; to forgive, divine... Neither of which is Marine Corps policy."
"In Onoraigh Ar Marbh" ~ We Honor Our Fallen

You've got it dead on, SSgt. Devildog, too.

I still (involuntarily) put two fingers between my brow and the cover whenever I break out one of my old ones and put it on.

PVB, it might be a case of a simple poor fit. If I remember correctly, the top of the cover should be parallel to the deck (ground). Maybe try some different sizes. It really doesn't look that bad, though. But I understand if you want to be perfect.

Oh, and it should feel like a strong breeze will knock it off your grape. But at the same time it should still be tight on your head.

HUMVEE Driver

I've only bought the one cover, so this will have to do.


Okay, ta for the advice.

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Steve
Corporal in 69th Regt. 1st Batt. Homer’s Heroes.

"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

...and they do that by making things difficult and convoluted.

The two descriptions are not mutually exclusive.


edit: in case it isn't clear, I'm just having a bit of fun. I respect the service and those who have and do serve.

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Jay Pennington

Well I just went through the entire thread and fixed all the links to my pics. WHEW!


So I'm happy to say that my Dress Blues uniform was a success at D-Con this year! Here are some very good pics:






And from the Parade itself:





So for the major changes here's a quick review:

The cover (hat):

The cover was originally a USMC Dress Blues white cover:




I removed the Eagle/Globe/Anchor device and replaced it with a custom USCM cap device made using a Challenge Coin:



The coin is attached to the cover with a screwpost and washer/nut combo:






The Tunic:




All United States Marine Corps insignias, and Eagle Globe Anchors (on the collar and buttons) were removed. The buttons were replaced with plain brass buttons. I gave the bottom pockets black buttons to create a bit more distinctiveness to the uniform steering it a little more away from genuine Dress Blues.

On the collar is custom Delta pins (you should be able to get a pair from Derek "CPL Smith" if he still has some left). Rank insignia are Army Dress Blue ranks. I permanently attached the Sulaco patch to the left breast pocket and the Screaming Eagle patch is above the left cuff. Dropship wings and campaign/merit ribbons finish off the impression.

The belt:



This is a white parade belt from Paradestore.com:

http://www.paradestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=92

Choose white belt, brass hardware, with eyelets.

Pants are my Star Trek TWOK pants.

Basically black dress trousers with a custom added 1/2" red stripe.

Shoes are Oxford style dress shoes.

White parade gloves round out the uniform.


Now Kerri has asked about a female version. The floor is open to suggestions and it's pretty much up to yourself. Personally what I envision is a black blouse with a black knee length skirt:




This is a proposed new USMC female Dress Blues (not sure if it ever became current or not). As for a cover I would go with the current female service cap:

(photo removed by me)

And switch out the Eagle Globe Anchor with a Challenge Coin.


Of course it's totally up to you!

Might be hard finding a genuine USMC blouse so you might have to find one that simply looks the part with a mandarin collar and have red piping custom added.

I look forward to see what you come up with!


Now there was also discussion of an alternate "B style" uniform (Derek Devildog was interested in putting this together).

The tunic and pants would remain the same. The cover would be a beret (black or red) and the belt would be a black leather garrison or Sam Browne belt.

Essentially it would look similar to this mock up:



(I'll take a better updated pic when I have the time to put my uniform on again ).

Best of success Marines!

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I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?!

Wow Kevin, looking at those pictures it strikes me how much integrity and "serious" fun your sheer presence brings to our fandom. Yet another reason why you truly deserve the MVM award this year.

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Cpl. M. Constantineau - Ordnance Technician "Baldwin's Badasses"

Feel free to visit my website at http://wookiemart.com/

Okay, I'm ready to dive into this thread again... Kev, the uniform looked great!

I'm still firmly of the opinion the buttons should be silver. Perhaps gold for staff NCO's or something... but I was never a fan of leaving the buttons gold.

I'm also still a big proponent of the Sam Browne belt, which I think we agreed would be for the "B" uniform.

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CPL Conley, D. A06/TQ2.0.72147E1



"To err is human; to forgive, divine... Neither of which is Marine Corps policy."
"In Onoraigh Ar Marbh" ~ We Honor Our Fallen

Just happened to snag a brown Sam Browne belt w/ strap off ebay today for only $18.00 Going to dye it black natcherly...

I like the beret too. 'course, you all knew that.

Since DD and I seem to be the only ones that favor this "B" style, what do you think about this opition- tucking the pants into the tops of dress boots- I don't know about the Corps, but Army Rangers do this, and I always thought that looked sharp

As for silver or brass buttons, I'm good either way on the "B" uniform-

Probably be my dinner wear...

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USCM- The Colonial Marines- A Brotherhood of Bad Asses!

Kevin, that first picture of the woman in uniform - what's that from? That's pretty much what I had in mind for the basic structure of the uniform, and any help I could get for a source on that would be GREATLY appreciated.

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General all around pain in the ass and master of the overshare.
"...a geeky kinda dorky kinda nerdy kinda gurl...and I like it!"

UKCM FOREIGN LEGION:
"DEVIANT DRAGOONS"

It is a prototype of the proposed new Dress Blues for female US Marines (the real Marines ).

Unfortunately I don't think you're going to find these anywhere as I'm pretty sure this uniform never went into production.

The pic was from this page:

http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/ ... iative.ASP

Reading through the page- it looks as if the new design was voted down.


Kevin

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I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?!

It was voted down... thank god. The only difference between uniforms was the proposed addition of a mandarin collar for the female uniform.

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CPL Conley, D. A06/TQ2.0.72147E1



"To err is human; to forgive, divine... Neither of which is Marine Corps policy."
"In Onoraigh Ar Marbh" ~ We Honor Our Fallen

Bah, it would have saved me a bit of trouble in having to restructure a blouse.

Oh, well.

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General all around pain in the ass and master of the overshare.
"...a geeky kinda dorky kinda nerdy kinda gurl...and I like it!"

UKCM FOREIGN LEGION:
"DEVIANT DRAGOONS"

There are at least 5 USMC Women's Dress Blue "jackets" on Ebay for $4.99 starting bids...

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CPL Conley, D. A06/TQ2.0.72147E1



"To err is human; to forgive, divine... Neither of which is Marine Corps policy."
"In Onoraigh Ar Marbh" ~ We Honor Our Fallen

A female Marine in blues in the colour party next year would be FCUKING awesome.

I agree!

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CPL Conley, D. A06/TQ2.0.72147E1



"To err is human; to forgive, divine... Neither of which is Marine Corps policy."
"In Onoraigh Ar Marbh" ~ We Honor Our Fallen

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

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General all around pain in the ass and master of the overshare.
"...a geeky kinda dorky kinda nerdy kinda gurl...and I like it!"

UKCM FOREIGN LEGION:
"DEVIANT DRAGOONS"

I know I'm something of an outsider, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do NOT use a beret anywhere on any Marine uniform! Berets are army/air force/whatever headgear, and are a continuing source of ridicule by the Marines. Just my $0.02, but I feel pretty strongly about it!

SSgt, when to comes to the Dress Blues that you've put together, I'm going to pay you the highest compliment one Marine can give another: you look squared away. Well done.

Seeing that pic of you guys in the parade carrying the flag was especially meaningful today. You've done all servicemen and women proud.

Carry on,
HUMVEE Driver

Dave,

I really don't know what to say other than thank you! Your kind words mean a lot to me Bro!


Kevin

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I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!?!

Unless you happen to be part of the real Marines, the Royal Marines that is.

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Martin 'Victim' Victory
A86/TQ3.4.49421E3
UKCM 13th Regt. 1st Batt. Freebooters


you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer