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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:42 pm 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostromo

I'm not sure how many folks know about this. I was not aware of it until this weekend.

I was speaking to my girlfriend, who is much more literate than I, and edits books for a living, about our little board here, and chatted with her about the movies.

Yes, she'd never seen them, and when I hit on the names for the ships, she just about died. In a good way.

We watched the first 2 films, and she loved them both.

In kind, I'm picking up a copy of the book this week.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:49 pm 
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The Narcissus was also named after a Conrad book...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:21 pm 
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Almost everything in the Aliens universe is.

It's also the reason we named our first Colony "Almayers Folly". Also based on Conrad.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:13 am 
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The ship in my fan-fiction story is named the "Socorro".

And yes- I got it out of "Nostromo" by Conrad. :)

The entire novel is available to read online:

http://www.nostromoonline.com/Framesets/f1_1.htm

Check out the name of the town in the first paragraph. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:12 am 
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There are some other literary references in this list I wrote up for Sideshow:

Stan Winston of Stan Winston Studios was responsible for the film's creature effects, and constructed the original 1/4 scale rod puppet along with Winston Supervisor John Rosengrant, and their team of FX professionals.

Seated next to Stan Winston on a plane ride, Aliens director James Cameron helped design the now famous Predator Hunter creature seen in all three films.

Stan Winston won the 1986 Academy Award for Best Visual Effects for his work on Aliens.

Lydecker (Acheron Colony Administrator) is an FX technique describing wire effects.

[AVP SPOILER] Aliens actors Lance Henricksen ("Bishop") and Bill Paxton ("Hudson") have both played characters who suffer the ultimate Sci-Fi screen death hat trick of: death by Alien, death by Predator AND, death by Terminator.

Aliens actors Michael Biehn ("Hicks") and Bill Paxton ("Hudson") have shared screen time in five films: Tombstone, The Terminator, Navy Seals, The Lords of Discipline, and of course, Aliens.

The Smartgunner team of Mark Rolston ("Drake") Jenette Goldstein ("Vasquez") have shared time in six Hollywood projects, Lethal Weapon 2, "Star Trek: The Next Generation," "24," "Alias," "E.R.," and Aliens.

The role of Lt. Ellen Ripley was originally planned for Meryl Streep.

The mechanism used to make the face-huggers scuttle about in the Med lab came from one of the "flying piranhas" in one of Cameron's earlier movies, Piranha II: The Spawning (1981). It took nine people on Stan Winston's team to make the facehugger work: one person for each leg, and one for the tail.

One of the Facehugger builders on Aliens was Stephen Norrington, who went on to direct Blade and The League of Extraordinary Gentleman.

In Aliens, Michael Biehn's character Hicks gets bitten on the hand by Newt (Carrie Henn). This happens to him in every James Cameron movie he's in: The Abyss, and The Terminator.

Both the Nostromo and the Sulaco have perpetual motion devices on the tables of their cafeterias.

The names Gorman, Hudson, Hicks and Frost were taken from the book, "A Bridge Too Far" by Cornelius Ryan (he also wrote "The Longest Day").

Aliens gave the planetoid from the first film a more formal nomenclature, "LV-426," and its name, "Acheron." In Greek mythology, Acheron is the river of woe and pain, in the underworld land of the damned.

Alien director Ridley Scott's original casting choice for the actor to play Captain Dallas was Harrison Ford, who had just finished playing Han Solo in Star Wars. Although Ford was not cast, he went on to star in Scott's next film, Blade Runner.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:02 am 
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My god Spat has read Conrad? Doe'snt that make you like literate or something?

So where does the word Sulaco come from? The rescue ship from the alien 3 novelization was named the Patna, where's that from?

And yes I have read the alien 3 novelization. I don't remember ever reading Conrad anywhere unless it was a comic book....juzt not dat all literut.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:15 am 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patna

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:36 am 
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Jenette Goldstein was in T2 as well as the foster mother yes or no?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:08 am 
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Yes she was.

Also, Jeanette, Bill Paxton and Lance Henricksen were all Vampires together in Near Dark.

And for the record, I am a product of the New York City Public Education System.

So I read good and stuff. Damn.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:54 am 
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I iz duh rezult of duh moffat county skool sistem (which means that most decent books were deemed indecent by the local religious reich until the mid 70s) Ah small town morality.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:08 am 
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Weren't Paxton and Jenette togeather in Predator 2 as cops? Been a while since I've seen it.

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Nah, that was Maria Conchita Alonso.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:28 pm 
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Jenette was a cop in Lethal Weapon 2.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:55 pm 
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Je suis le produit du systeme scolaire de Montreal, so I read, write and speak French and English.

Now that's cool.

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French and English? You speak Fringlish!!!

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:23 pm 
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I speak two languages, English and Bad English.

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Spatman wrote:
I speak two languages, English and Bad English.

Top that!


Bad Inglish?? Tat's what eye speek.. I was teached it in hi school.
Darned if I can rite it

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:16 pm 
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sharpuscm wrote:
Je suis le produit du systeme scolaire de Montreal, so I read, write and speak French and English.

Now that's cool.

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Actually, thats very cool

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