I need to rewatch A3 (not seen it for 3 months+ )... but is there anything in Alien3 that would prevent fitting a story in between Aliens and Alien3 - they wake up sometime between Aliens and Alien3 and do "something" on a planet somewhere between LV-426 and F-16, then go back to bed? This might better explain the presence of eggs on the Sulaco too...


Of course, this would have Newt alive also. That would be hard to cast ...

I wouldnt go that far. At least nothing is officially confirmed to those lengths. All that is official is a 5th Alien movie is being made, the directer who had highly publicized concept art involving Hicks and Ripley is on the job, and Ridley Scott is producing it. Details about confirmed characters and story is a complete unknown so far, so it may be a bit early to get too happy. At least, I am not going to get too happy (so that I have a lesser chance of being heartbroken!)

edited: I had more but then realized it had been said already...

That would indeed provide a window to better explain facehuggers on the sulaco in the first place.

No-one knows and we probably won't for some time yet but it looks to be a possibility.

Mhh.

July 27th 2179: The USS Sulaco arrives at LV-426
July 28th 2179: The USS Sulaco leaves LV-426 (end of Aliens)
August 9th 2179: EEV unit 2650 crashes on Fiorina "Fury" 161 (begining of Alien3).

Whatever would have happened between Aliens and Alien3
would have happened in 1-2 days depending travel time
and must have been removed from Ripley's and Bishop's memory.
That should not be a show stopper for something to happen between Aliens and Alien3.
It could include Ripley, Hicks, Newt and Bishop??.
Well considering Bishop’s damage he might be deactivated all the time.

But I think the events from A:CM might also "need" to considered here.

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You don't suppose a re-telling of the A:CM story with cleaned up loose ends and greater depth might be an option? With the exception of Ripley being actively involved a lot of the art looks like it could be a very similar story.

EDIT: but everyone is too old. Never mind.

WAAAAAAAAAY too old.

Unless you get Anton Yelchin and Summer Glau to play the parts!

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As much as A3 irked me, and Alien:Res sucked, I can't take any more editing of the story line.

As much as I wish it were otherwise, Hicks is dead.

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Completely ignore resurrection and we can consider Alien3 as a hypersleep dream/nightmare that Ripley could have had. Summer Glau plays the new Ripley and rework /rewrite A:CM to reflect the concept art. Fox comes here first to cast Colonial Marine extras.

No no, I don't actually want Ripley recast! Summer is okay, but she's no Sigourney!

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Alien V = Alien: Isolation adaption

One can hope!

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I love the Hicks make-up, and think it's an excellent depiction of Neill Blomkamp's concept art, but.... Hicks didn't really seem to be damaged that much in the movie to me.

Surely the acid continued to burn until he was treated?
The facehugger's went through 3 decks

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The original DH comics had much more acid damage too. Call it artistic license! I think it looks badass.

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I like Neill Blomkamps work very much so far. I think he's great storyteller and designer too. I hope whatever he's doing will be a high quality revival of the franchise. I didn't like Alien 3 very much and I hate Alien Resurrection. Those AVP movies are very trashy too. So I'm very optimistic it will become much better then those.

I think you guys read way to much into these concept drawings. Bloomkamp did these just for fun when he was inspired by Sigourney Weaver on his set. Maybe he did those long before he had a story idea for Alien 5 in mind. I believe his headline for these paintings was: How would I've done Alien 3?

Hicks is dead. Ripley is dead. If they don't want to do a reboot, the only possible role for Weaver would be the Clone-Ripley from Resurrection - OMG! - I hope they don't do that.

My theory 1 - They will find some new main characters for Alien 5. Weaver and Biehn will not be involved. I would prefer that because I always believed Sigourney Weaver is not necessary for a great Alien movie. I would love to see some great new main characters.

He'd be an awesome marine for sure.

Fookin xenomorphs

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I thought the way they kept Hicks alive in A:CM was pretty decent IMO. I don't care if it's magical unicorns that reverse time or if Captain Kirk just happened to zip around the sun again changing the past...

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I liked the idea in A:CM of WY Mercs boarding the Sulaco before the Colonial Administration had a real chance to react. It stands to reason that Burke didn't intend to die and may have had a ship secretly tailing the Sulaco from the start. He could have paid off WY Mercs to intercept the Sulaco before it reaches quarantine once off LV-426. This could have been Burke's backup plan or part of the larger corporate picture. If you combine some of the info from Alien: A River Of Pain (seriously amazing book about the fall of LV-426) then it stands to reason that many more besides Burke had a pretty good idea what they would find out there.

My point is that having WY on the Sulaco before Alien 3 (as per A:CM) could not only explain how Hicks lived, it could also explain why Ripley didn't in fact die on Fury 161. She was simply placed in a dream state by WY techs while they traveled to wherever. Remember when Ripley woke up screaming on Gateway holding her chest. Bad Dreams again? They wouldn't even need to really show Newt because she would be in the hypersleep chamber still on the Sulaco. Then cue to "20ish Years Later" and off we go. Big jumps in time wouldn't even be out of the norm for an Aliens movie.

As for Alien Resurrection...F**K that movie it doesn't exist to me anyhow. =)

Given that Sigourney has been talking about liking his script I'd say counting her out is a bit silly. Will we see everything from that preproduction art in the final film? Most likely not, but you can't honestly say it isn't tied to the pitch that came right after. He never said "this is how I'd have done Alien3". If I'm wrong please provide a link.

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That right there ha ha!



I hope she comes back. I want to see an older grizzled Hicks as well.

Intertwining flashback and flashforward scenes is pretty big these days. Perhaps an artistic bouncing around of past and present (future) is in order to include an older duo combined with some pre-silliness timelines.