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 Post subject: ALIENS: Hadley's Hope Corridor Dimensions
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:40 pm 
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Hi everyone,

I'm new here :D I'm a game environment artist starting work on a new portfolio piece. I want to re-create most of Hadley's Hope starting with the classic corridors. I have been trialling through my Blu-rays and the internet looking at references and I'm building a collection. My question is does anyone have dimensions of the corridors? or specific sizes of objects or props would help too.

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The same piece used for the base of the Marine's shoulder lamps (an alrm box) is used as set dressing beside the doors. That would be a good place to start!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:47 am 
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The door switch measures 26.5 cm long, 10 cm wide, and 6.5 cm high (at the speaker). Let me know If you need any other measurements.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:12 am 
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Thanks so much for the information this will be invaluable when it comes to creating these pieces!

I found a few posts about the plastic pallet floor tiles used and the similar pallets sold by a company in Australia.

Medium Duty Euro Plastic Pallet P2G850 = http://www.plastic2go.com.au/products/m ... et/p2g850/
Medium Duty Used Plastic Pallet P2G1210SU = http://www.plastic2go.com.au/products/m ... p2g1210su/

I found most were 120cm by 80cm and looking at reference shots from the movie there are 2 placed across the corridor so that adds up to 240cm wide.

The next thing is to add the size of the trim sections running down the edges of these pallets which look like trench drain grates. Found very similar pieces and they are around 13cm by 60cm.

DG0640 Trench Drain Grate Polycast Galv Steel A Class = http://www.ebay.com/itm/DG0640-Trench-D ... 0851946446
DG0641 Trench Drain Grate Polycast Gray Iron C Class = http://www.ebay.com/itm/DG0641-Trench-D ... 0851939390
152411 Trench Drain Grate DI 25 Ton = http://www.ebay.com/itm/152411-Trench-D ... 1571195783

Not sure which one is most like the movie but will keep looking into it. So any other measurements or inputs would be great!

Thanks for the help!

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M56 Smart One posted this photo in another thread, but you can see here the alarm box mounted on the wall just above Drake's shoulder (Quarax's pictures and measurements should really help!)

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Great job on the floor pallets and storm drain, I'd guess those measurements will be pretty damn close.

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Thanks retrogarde, the weird thing is I've created a test map in UE4 and set 2 blocks as 120x80cm with 2 blocks either side at 80x14cm. I placed in a cylinder to represent a person at 192x42cm and the platform looks no way near wide enough. I will get Ripley's height which is 182cm and put that in just to get better reference but I think I got the floor tile sizes wrong. Thing is, they all seem to be no larger than 120cm....

Even calculating it appears correct looking at the reference image attached, the corridor has 3 x 2 pallets which looks like it creates a square, if the pallets are 80cm wide that would equal to 240cm which means the pallets are 120cm long, so why it looks too small in game I'm not sure of

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Even calculating it appears correct looking at the reference image attached, the corridor has 3 x 2 pallets which looks like it creates a square, if the pallets are 80cm wide that would equal to 240cm which means the pallets are 120cm long, so why it looks too small in game I'm not sure of

Different perspective, along with focal length of camera lens?

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I'd say it looks more like 4x2 making a square to me.?

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Different perspective, along with focal length of camera lens?


Yea I did think that too, I'll stick with these dimensions for now unless I find anything else.

punkmarine I think it's definitely 3 as there are thicker sections/beams every 3 tiles. Have a look at the image I've attached to demo this.

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Think I'm confusing myself now. lol
Is each small square 3 long thin pallets therefore 3x1, therefore 80x240?
2 of those make the width of the corridor which makes it 480?

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Think I'm confusing myself now. lol
Is each small square 3 long thin pallets therefore 3x1, therefore 80x240?
2 of those make the width of the corridor which makes it 480?


lol well after doing loads of digging around I believe the pallets are 120x80cm and they are laid out 2 across making it 240cm wide. Every 3 pallets up though they seemed to have placed support struts of the sorts across to break it up. So each "square" is 3x2 pallets

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I'm still a little confused, if one 120cm long pallet would fill that hole then it's width surely can't be 80?
The hole/pallet is at least twice as long as wide making it 60, 3 times would make it 40 wide?

Just as a rough estimate, if Hicks was lying down I reckon he wouldn't be far off spanning it head to toe. ;-)

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Going by loads of other pallets and these ones here the size is 120cm long and 80cm wide

http://www.plastic2go.com.au/products/m ... et/p2g850/

Update: I've come across this FLickr album with images of pallets, apparently the same ones were used in the Star Wars movies and according to an image from Prop Store the pallets are actually 98cm x 119cm

https://www.flickr.com/photos/89573038@ ... 934928695/

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http://vimeo.com/57893332 might have some uses

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Those aren't the correct pallets - you're looking for these:

http://alienscollection.com/pallet/

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There's more info here:

http://www.therpf.com/f9/aliens-floor-tile-150618/

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:43 am 
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Thanks Willie, does anyone have actual dimensions or measurements of the corridors etc?

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