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I'd just like to send out a BIG thanks to Mudshark for helping me out with some challenges! A couple of them seem to be damn near impossible without a buddy to help you out. We'll have to do that again soon, and if anyone else wants in, let me know!

Also, I'm sure that everyone knows about the fence camping spot on Origins. I don't know if this is a recent patch or not... but you can frag your teammates and kill them. It takes four greanades, but I will do that every time I see any Marines camping out up there and I'm proud of it.

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On consoles, during the game I think you hold down the left analog stick and it shows a circular menu. It took me a good while to discover that... :(

It's the Y button on the 360:

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Press to cycle or hold to bring up the selection ring.

I think it tells you that in the manual, but can't be sure, as I lent the game out. :)

Here's what it says in the Brady guide:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:51 pm 
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Since I got the game I've been playing things non-stop trying to catch up, and now I have I thought I'd pop over here to see what everyone thought. I can't say I'm surprised, since this game seems to divide opinion everywhere, regardless of how much you like Alien films.

Anyway, I thought it was great! I had 2.5 weeks of fun, and I liked it enough to get the Platinum Trophy. I'd had it on pre-order for about 3 or 4 years, and I wasn't disappointed. It had loads of details from the film, and just being in Hadley's Hope was excellent, never mind all the rest of the game. I'd give it 8/10.

I haven't seen the Abe collar, as I think the last patch came out a few days after I'd Platinum'd it. It was a nice surprise to see it posted here. Well done Abe!

I'm not one for much online multi-player, but I enjoyed it with this.

I didn't have a problem with the graphics, or AI. The only things that annoyed me about it are the spelling and the way they kept saying "Sulaco Actual" all the time. That really annoyed me. Is there a pretend Sulaco somewhere, and this was the actual one? Why not say his name, or just Sulaco. But apart from those, it was great.

And I saw that Mass Effect 3 was mentioned. I just finished that yesterday, and if anyone is interested it's currently free (or it was a few weeks ago when I got it) with PlayStation Plus. It's very good.

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"Actual' is a more recent way of saying commander, leader, etc... I learnt this recently by researching communications procedures for US pilots (Cheers, Sean Maio! ^_^ ) and I was surprised too, but that's what you get for falling behind the times on military procedures. 'Sulaco Actual' is the commander of the Sulaco, that's all.

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Which version of the game?

PC, although the Hudson ammo thing now covered... kinda sucks though, since they're both Pulsies.

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"Actual' is a more recent way of saying commander, leader, etc...

Yes indeedy.
Pretty much WW2 onwards - Callsign is for a unit, Actual is the commander of that same unit, usually Company size and above.


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WW2 onwards?? Seriously? That's a lot older than I thought...

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.The only things that annoyed me about it are the spelling....

Except for one 'YOUR' instead of 'YOU'RE' on Keyes' armour, I don't remember any others. :?

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.The only things that annoyed me about it are the spelling....

Except for one 'YOUR' instead of 'YOU'RE' on Keyes' armour, I don't remember any others. :?


Customise, colour and armour spring to mind. I hate it when companies can't be bothered to localise games. If you are French, I'm sure the words are spelt in French, so why don't they spend all of 10 minutes doing a find/replace on three or four words that are spelt wrong in English?

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.The only things that annoyed me about it are the spelling....

Except for one 'YOUR' instead of 'YOU'RE' on Keyes' armour, I don't remember any others. :?


Customise, colour and armour spring to mind. I hate it when companies can't be bothered to localise games. If you are French, I'm sure the words are spelt in French, so why don't they spend all of 10 minutes doing a find/replace on three or four words that are spelt wrong in English?

Happens with most games though, not just this one.

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Happens with most games though, not just this one.


I know, as it's one of the most annoying things about modern gaming. It drives me up the wall. I was playing Tomb Raider a few weeks ago, and Lara was talking about "elevators", and "flash lights", and the spelling was wrong on several words all the way through. She's English, and the game originated in England :twisted: Then they have the cheek to have localisation credits at the end! They should be fired, as they clearly didn't do their jobs.

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Do you have any idea how frustrating that whole US/UK English thing is for a translator? *shakes fist*

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My girlfriend was almost passed over for a job in a school in Taiwan (where her mum is from) because she didn't speak English properly. She then explained her father is British, she lived there most of her life and has great qualifications in it. They then gave her a CD of how to speak english to learn............*facepalm*

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My girlfriend was almost passed over for a job in a school in Taiwan (where her mum is from) because she didn't speak English properly. She then explained her father is British, she lived there most of her life and has great qualifications in it. They then gave her a CD of how to speak english to learn............*facepalm*

That's absolutely absurd. I doubt anything like that would've happened in Japan, or especially Hong Kong. Ridiculous!

I've been teaching English in Japan for many years and always make it a point to explain the differences in spelling, grammar, and usage when it is relevant or of interest. English taught in Japan since WW2 has been largely influenced by American business and culture, yet there are still remnants of chiefly British forms in use here even though most people aren't aware of them. This results in some curious contradictions, such as...(UK - windscreen, bonnet, boot; US - windshield, hood, trunk; Japan - front glass, bonnet, trunk :?: And that is only one small example! :mrgreen:
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Do you have any idea how frustrating that whole US/UK English thing is for a translator? *shakes fist*

You are quite right, and can you imagine just how much more frustrating it is to try teaching this to people from an entirely different culture and language? *pulls hair out in handfulls* :lol:

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I was playing Tomb Raider a few weeks ago, and Lara was talking about "elevators", and "flash lights", and the spelling was wrong on several words all the way through. She's English, and the game originated in England :twisted: Then they have the cheek to have localisation credits at the end!

I tend not to let this kind of thing bother me, but I entirely agree with you! I mentally substitute lift for elevator, and torch for flashlight, lorry for truck etc. when playing Tomb Raider, or any game where oversights like that occur. It's only right. :wink:

And on a side note:
One word in particular that annoys me is the constant use of "turret" to refer to a machine gun in games these days. I'm sure you all know what the original meaning is so I need not explain further, but in military terms it referred chiefly to an armoured gun emplacement that rotates to some degree, such as those on a ship, aircraft, or a tank (AFV). The robot sentry guns in Aliens are lightly armoured and they do rotate, but I wouldn't call them turrets, and don't. Out of curiosity, does anyone else happen to find this somewhat odd/annoying besides me... or is it just my age showing? :roll:

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I agree on the turret thing, yes. :)

And my gf was told American English was standard around asia so she had to teach that. Mad, eh?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:30 pm 
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I'd just like to send out a BIG thanks to Mudshark for helping me out with some challenges! A couple of them seem to be damn near impossible without a buddy to help you out. We'll have to do that again soon, and if anyone else wants in, let me know!

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You are most welcome! I still need some help with the "kill two Marines with one fully charged acid spit" challenge. If we can get one or two other people to join in sometime I think we could knock out a bunch of MP challenges and unlock those last Marine armor upgrades. :mrgreen:

I've spent the past several midnights till dawn helping friends work through their lists of challenges in co-op and being a target dummy in Deathmatch. Completely enjoying the chance to play with friends from AL and a few others I've met online playing A:CM. If anyone else wants help with any challenges on PS3 just message me on PSN! :)

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I agree on the turret thing, yes. :)

And my gf was told American English was standard around asia so she had to teach that. Mad, eh?

I does seem to be popular at the moment, but I don't believe it is officially standard in any Asian country that I've ever visited. From personal experience I'd say only people with very advanced English language skills could even discern the differences, which would include many of those who operate English language schools as well, imo.

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It's always surprised/annoyed me that Japan, who were bombed by America, chose their enemies spelling mistakes over proper English. Bizarre!

If I had kids, I'd be concerned about my child picking up incorrect words and spellings. I was playing Disney Universe (obviously mainly for kids), and it had spelling mistakes. This isn't right.

Last month I was actually considering sending a letter to an MP or someone, asking if they could require all games sold here to be localised. I'm not sure who to send such a request to. I've heard that France has localisation laws, though I don't know if it's applied to games. I'm sure if they didn't get games in French, they would do something about it.

In A:CM I also noticed that the Sentry Guns were called turrets. That was annoying.

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Bear in mind that they're not spelling mistakes, they're American English. :wink:

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Bear in mind that they're not spelling mistakes, they're American English. :wink:


See I dislike that term I prefer English as spelt by Americans

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I agree on the turret thing, yes. :)

And my gf was told American English was standard around asia so she had to teach that. Mad, eh?

I does seem to be popular at the moment, but I don't believe it is officially standard in any Asian country that I've ever visited. From personal experience I'd say only people with very advanced English language skills could even discern the differences, which would include many of those who operate English language schools as well, imo.


Funnily enough when I went to visit her I noticed the same - not like any of the small particulars matter in spoken English (one time I asked where the lifts where, the person knew what I mean...) And I didn't need to use written english to communicate at anytime either, so I'd agree with you on that.
I just threw some great Scottish words in to see the look on the other teacher's faces :)

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No PVB, in British English they are spelling mistakes, as we don't use American English. That's the point about localised ;) they may be correct in the US but not here. Same with French Canadian - bet the French don't distinguish between mistakes and French Canadian :p

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French Canadian's not so much about spelling differences as it is about completely different (and hilarious!) vocabulary. Trust me, we notice when it's Quebecois!

As for localisation laws... You know, I don't know if it's actually compulsory to dub/localise cultural products, as opposed to simply subtitling them, or if it's just a question of the French public needing the dub to understand the damn movie/show/game, on account of being abysmally bad at foreign languages and too fucking lazy to read subtitles...
Anyway, for all their (minor) differences, US and UK English are still the same language. Get one in the wrong dialect and you can still understand what's going on. Between French and English, it's a whole different matter - if a movie/game isn't translated, it simply won't sell at all...

That said, for a long time the translations of movies and TV shows were rife with mistakes, and when it started getting better, video games started taking over that 'niche' and the translations were even worse. It's getting better now, fortunately, but it was pretty horrible for a while. The one example I have in mind was in a Star Wars game, a strategic conquest where you could use the characters as heroes and commanders. Han Solo's acknowledgement of orders given was "You got it!" Instead of translating that with the colloquial meaning "order received, I'm on it", it was translated quasi literally as: "You hit it!". The whole bloody game was full of such crappy, first year student mistakes...

That's pretty much when I decided on my future career. :P


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Its really not a big thing, just a niggling annoyance :)

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No PVB, in British English they are spelling mistakes, as we don't use American English. That's the point about localised ;) they may be correct in the US but not here. Same with French Canadian - bet the French don't distinguish between mistakes and French Canadian :p

Okay......but look at it this way, if a French-made game was released in the UK, but not localised into English, the words wouldn't be English spelling mistakes, it'd be a localisation issue. :wink:

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