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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:11 pm 
ok can i take a whack at this?

a basic Magazine is nothing more then a metal shell (body of the magazine) a inner tube and a spring inside of that tube

IF a magazine can be striped down as much as it can is there a way a expert metal worrker can cut it and make the magazine shorter...or llonger depending on what i need for it? looks don't matter

but can this be done?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:55 pm 
Depends on if you need the magazine to function afterwords ;) When you change a magazine's length, you change the spring-rate of the follower inside the mag, and you may have feed problems unless you get a spring specifically designed for that lenth of magazine.

Also, since we're dealing with airsoft magazines, it depends on the TYPE of magazine too. If it's for a gas gun, I wouldn't do it. I certainly wouldn't charge the gas cylinder after having it cut and re-welded! Can you say "mini-grenade"? :oops:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:13 pm 
If you need it functional, you may have better success with a high capacity magazine for the AEGs. IIRC, the hi-caps don't use springs, but instead use gears to push the BBs up the feed. This engineering approach is the main reason why all the after market box/drum mag kits for the AEG's (such as the G36, MP5, M16 variants) require you to canibalize of one of their respective hi-cap mags to complete the kit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:47 am 
I think you need to clarify the type of magazine you're using, be it real steel, or airsoft, and the type of gun it will be used with.

In general, it's difficult to modify an airsoft gun magazine to be "longer or shorter" than the way it's manufactured. Airsoft mags in general have plastic internal components which are placed in the magazine to function in a certain way.

Now, if your idea is to make a large capacity magazine, like something up in the 1,000-4,000 round range, that IS doable provided you limit any mods to the mag to just the metal casing itself, and not the internal structure.

For instance, if you wanted to make, say a 1,000 round G3 mag, you'd need to make a box that the mag would be mounted into, and from there you could cut a hole in the side of the mag to allow an insane amount of BBs to feed into the gearworks of the mag.

Essentially what you'd be doing is enlarging the "BB well" inside the magazine, with an external addition. You could also modify it even further by adding an electric gear winding motor and slave that to a push button contact switch.

That's what I believe Guarder did with the plans for their M249 magazine. They decided not to produce the mag itself, and posted the plans for anyone to use.

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 Post subject: Re: butchering a magazine
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:40 am 
Thompson M1A1 AEG TM
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:22 am 
Yepper, that's the one. I was going to make an MP5SAW based on those plans, but I never got around to doing the magazine itself. It's not overly complex, it's just that some mags lend themselves to doing the mod... and some don't.

The Thompson mags and 200 round MP5 mags do not.

The G3, M16 and I think the AK mags do work. You might also be able to mod this up using the 240 round MP5 mag, as that's got the same style of large winding wheel. The standard MP5/Thompson mags (and I imagine the UZI) do not have that large wheel to add a motor to.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 9:32 pm 
ok soooo, takeing apart a thompson magazine to shorten it wouldn't work?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:19 pm 
Probably not, but it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you just want a short mag, buy the 190 round Thompson mag, which is the one used in a pulse rifle. If you have some other idea in mind, if you provide some details we can give you a better idea if it's possible.

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