Has the RPF imploded due to that thread, as I'm getting

at the moment?

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"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

W. T. F?!

Hot-glued?!

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HCG seem to love hot-glue. And magnets.

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"We're not heroes - we're from Finchley"

Plulse rifles have landed at the prop store. Staff now checking for defects.

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Armour by Terry English.

QFT - While I don't necessarily consider myself a die-hard (blasphemy, I know...), I am pretty super critical about what I spend my funds on. I bought the PR based on having held one of the prototypes at Wonderfest a couple of years ago, and HCGs promo shots. Mine suffers from the dreaded droop, and it took me a while to figure out whether or not I was going to send it back as HCG suggested, or let the debbil in me win out and tear into the thing to make it the way I want it to be. The debbil won out, and I'm keeping it w/ the full intention of voiding my warranty. LOL!

Honestly, aside from the droop and some of the other problems encountered thus far, the PR as a display piece is pretty damn cool IMHO.

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Hot glue is fine in the right place.

Spat's armour uses hot glue to fix the cushioning padding to the inside of the armour and it works great as it almost bonds itself to both materials, making for a very strong fixing.

If it's being used to hold things that aren't going to bond with the glue as well (e.g. metal or hard plastic), then there may be problems.

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Steve
Corporal in 69th Regt. 1st Batt. Homer’s Heroes.

"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

I was going to post here also but the RPF seems to be down at the moment. It definitely seems like the OD ones are the problem ones.

Does everyones "straight" variant have such a big gap between the shroud and the SPAS cage?

Whether or not someone modifies the HCG version it should still be straight and not drooping.

It's down for me too.


Kevin

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its seems the hcg rifles are all hype etc all that money for defective rifles
only saving grace is as said before is the metal shrouds
tbh i'd be happy to stick with a working g&p airsoft
at least then i can shoot straight and not look like a stormtrooper and miss the broadside of a barn

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I'm the one they warned you about

I do not have, nor have I ordered an HCG Pulse Rifle. I have however built one using Matt's shrouds, airsoft Thompson and parts from other people. I have been following the thread here and on the RPF like many, many others.

My two cents, that's all-

If I were to spend $900 on a prop I would expect a quality product, one that was put together properly and finished nicely. Yes, the aluminum shrouds are nice. But for some to say that that is the saving grace of the prop and that other QC issues should be overlooked because someone is a diehard PR fan is just wrong. The majority of the people who bought this are not going to rip them apart just to have aluminum shrouds. The shrouds were not designed to fit over an airsoft Thompson (probably the most common base used in a PR build), so the shrouds were not designed for the PR builder. Bottom line is that they were assembled poorly at the factory, plain and simple.

With all the hype over this I have almost decided to build myself another hero PR. One that has a GL that is straight.

Hopefully the majority of the HCG PR's are to the customers approval and that the others can be replaced or fixed without much headache.

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Finally played with mine last night and for now it doesn't have the droop. Overall it's a pretty nice replica. I was comparing my 'hero' airsoft rifle and comparing how it's the same and where it differs. Pretty cool stuff. Kinda concerened about the long term durability of the non-functioning mag release lever, and I'm not sold on the display rack durability, but overall I'm happy with it.

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non functioning mag release? how does the magazine come out?

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It is held in with magnets.

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wtf?
thats really lame
seems they only really made it look good, i'm sticking with a g&p at least its all functional then

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I'm the one they warned you about

Well I took a road trip to the Prop store of London today and picked up my PR.
I spoke with the guys there who were checking all the PR's that had arrived to make sure that they were all in good working order.
They had checked mine and put it aside for me (number 169 of 1000). They said that they were having to send a few back but because of faulty electrics! They agreed that this is not very good after such a long wait from HGC/China for the product that costs $1000.

I tried to add more pics but my photobucket ios being a pain. I'll try again later.

Just got home and got it out of the box:




Barrel and GL are fine. There is no "droop" and the paint work is perfect!



If mine does have the dreaded droop then I certainly can't see it and will definately be keeping her - she is beautiful! I have heard a few negatives about these pieces and was a bit worried how mine would be but believe me guys, They are GOOD!

Anyone else in the UK got theirs yet or can I claim first place?!
Cheers,
Smally.

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Actually, it's magic.

But seriously though, be careful not to pinch your fingers between them... been there, done that at least a half dozen times already.

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To be clear, that is not what I am saying.

If your HCG pulse rifle arrived with flaws, defects, or other 'issues' such as this hot topic about 'barrel droop', then by all means contact HCG and work it out with them.

Those diehard pulse rifle BUILDERS (not fans) I refer to are those who have already gone above and beyond what the casual pulse rifle fan/builder has ever done -- real metal SPAS 12 cages and sometimes even real deactivated Thompson M1A1's and Remington 870 parts. Those are the ones that have been drooling over the thought of real aluminum shrouds for years now.


I'd wouldn't hold my breath just yet on that one, but I guarantee that you will be surprised by how many members here purchased this kit to strip the shrouds off of them to be used in their even more accurate pulse rifle build.


Not entirely true. We've been very fortunate to have some 'insiders' that worked very closely with HCG regarding the design of this particular product, one of which has already "successfully grafted an HCG shroud set to an airsoft" with some modifications. Hopefully he'll chime in here soon with details and photos.


True perhaps. But they ARE made in China. That's the only way HCG could have pulled off such an affordable price point for a pulse rifle with real aluminum shrouds. Again, I bring this up because no typical prop company is going to go through the added expense and R&D to bring casual pulse rifle fans aluminum shrouds. They could easily have been made of resin at a fraction of the cost and the casual pulse rifle fan would not have known the difference.

This very same pulse rifle (perhaps with better QC) would have easily cost us $2000 USD or more if manufactured here in the United States. Sometimes it's a blatant trade off of quality for cost -- but in this case it's not so much the quality of the materials or the craftsmanship as it is a problem with the quality of the fit and finish of final assembly.

Regardless, I hope HCG is able to resolve this issue amicably with those that truly have poorly assembled pieces.


But I bet it won't have aluminum shrouds.

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gonna see if my mate will have a go at making some shrouds!!!
hey has anyone approached terry about seeing if he would do some?

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I'm the one they warned you about

I have one of the OD versions and I think my rifle suffers from the dreaded droop.

What should I do? Should I attempt to send it back? Is HCG going to do any kind of repairs?

I tossed the main box it came in the day I opened it (the apartment my wife and I live doesn't have a lot of room despite being a 2 bedroom). I still have the 2nd box, but don't have any of the Styrofoam packing material.

Same here.

Although the included 'warning/instruction' sheet did make mention of not pulling on the triggers because they are "non-functional", I believe they should have mentioned not using the "non-functioning" mag release lever instead. It seems quite delicate. Oppositely, it seems that the primary Thompson trigger is spring-loaded and rather sturdy -- so their wording seems a bit misplaced...

"Both of the triggers are non-functioning and should not be "pulled". Do not pull hard or try to force the trigger back as this can break the trigger blade. Damage caused this way is not covered by warranty."

Even the grenade launcher trigger is not 'fixed' in place. Although not spring-loaded, it seems to be loosely hinged and not in any immediate danger of being forcefully broken off.

I'm on the fence regarding the rack's ability to safely hold this piece. The gun alone weighs nearly 11 pounds, so suffice to say that I will probably display mine differently -- just in case.

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Sorry these are crappy quick pics as the sun was setting.

Here are my two - both versions:





The OD one has definite droopage - The BB version I am not sure - It looks straighter but not sure if it is totally straight either.

Now here they are compared to a Black Matsuo/SDS build that Matsuo did all the work on. (real Spas & Remington 870 - Airsoft Thompson, SD Barrel vent and stock)

yeah i'm really not liking the hcg compared to others

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I'm the one they warned you about

If you look at the shrouds again you'll notice that while there are many folds there also has to be some extra aluminium sections welded on, and Terry doesn't weld aluminium. They can't just be beaten out of one sheet of metal as there'd be nothing there as it were. Try and picture making one in your head (or try it from one sheet of paper) and you'll see what I mean.

Harry

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I really like the shroud on the HCG. It's thicker at the area where the shot counter is than the one I got from Matsuo (sorry Matt!).

I AM sorely tempted to strip the shrouds off and transplant.

Russ

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I intentionally sold you crappy shrouds Russ, you should see the new ones I made, they are made of titanium resin and can withstand a nuclear blast!

I've already stripped the metal shrouds off and planted them on an airsoft... weighs just under 13 lbs now.

The hot glue you guys are rolling your eyes at aint like the hot glue your auntie glues flowers to her tea cozy with trust me. Industrial hot melt is extremely durable.

The droop can be fixed, contact me if you aim to void your warranty...
Otherwise Contact HCG directly.. it's like I said on the RPF, complaining loudly on message boards will get you an audience, but it wont get results, you have to go through channels with HCG if you are irredeemably unsatisfied with your gun.



M

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