I just imported some magazines and goggles for airsoft but the box was labelled "toy gun and accessories" so I got a call from UPS asking what the guns FPS was?

After I explained that there was actually no gun in the box it was fine but I've never been asked that question before so wondered if it was anything to do with the new laws.

Those who have had items seized by customs should kick up a stink about that for sure - this country sucks peach!

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The FPS question is something that happens depending on which courier brings it into the country; some companies ask for a muzzle energy declaration before they'll deliver it.

Nothing to do with the new laws, just another hoop that needs jumping through.

ParcelFarce update - arrived in the country 27th September, 7:54 PM.

This is where I get hideous charges and have to tell them they can't charge me because the stuff is being returned to me, and is already my property o_o;

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Checked ParcelForce this morning. Pulse rifle kit awaiting customs charges... fingers crossed

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Cleared customs at 11:59 with charges... talk about a narrow escape!

Will report on charges shortly.

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Well, 1st of October, and it clears customs

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Weyland-Yutani: Their projects are intentionally full of bugs. Avoid!

£83.99 - oof! Hopefully British Airways will swallow the charge after all the hassle this business has caused me x_x

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Any one see London Tonight.....tonight ????? it had me rolloing up, they were harping on about how they seized a lorry load of automatic and semi atomatic.......................REPLICAS

You can sleep safe in your beds tonight, the toy gun police are on the case

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I wonder under what pretext they 'seized' these replicas...

I can't quite figure out which law they would have been breaking by moving replica firearms in a commercial vehicle.

Can't find it on the LT website either.

My stuff will be delivered tomorrow - I hope it all survived o_o;;

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Picked up my thomson and maruzen 870 yesterday..

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STEVENSON F.
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"You are not your Drop Count."

The bastards broke my Morita...

Mainly surface stuff, so I'll have to see if I can get it repaired. The Reaper rifle is home too, and that looks superb.

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Any updates on the situation?

I have a couple people in the UK foaming at the mouth over BSG blasters and I am hesitant to try and send one in, even as a kit, for fear of confiscation.

M

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"Stand up for something...Or get knocked down for nothing..."

I got a QMX Mal stunt with no prob a bit ago.

SAS

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Alan T. Alien
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Founder of UKCM 13th Regt. 1st Batt. Freebooters
Founder of Special Armaments Section (Heavy Weapons)
"People don't understand. people like me"

I reckon you'll be ok with a kit. It also depends of course on whether they decide to open it up or not...

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"Everybody online... lookin' good".
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Paint it all a bright colour and let them finish it. Perfectly legal that way.

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Legal for the seller / importer, but not for anyone who decides to piece it together and paint it non-approved colours without the relevant exemptions!

That depends on whether or not they fall within the exemption!

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That's why I said '...without the relevant exemptions...'.

If it looks and is coloured even vaguely like a firearm, even a non-existant fantasy pea shooter, it's illegal to put the kit together without the relevant exemption.

These laws am teh suck.

Deacs are completely exempt from the VCRA cobblers.

SAS

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Alan T. Alien
1st Lt Smith, SA "Sidewinder"
A13/TQ1.4.19720EX CMA
Founder of UKCM 13th Regt. 1st Batt. Freebooters
Founder of Special Armaments Section (Heavy Weapons)
"People don't understand. people like me"

I asked about this law in an 'armoury' shop in Brighton recently and was told "no problem with anything you see here because they're all real, deactivated weapons". I said, "So I'm allowed to buy one of these... but I'm not allowed to go into the toyshop and buy a plastic model of one?" "Exactly."

They went on to say that the reasoning is as follows: criminal types who want something with which to hold up a bank are not very likely to go and spend £350 on a de-ac; they are however much more likely to spend £20 on an airsoft.

I suppose I can just about see the logic there. I don't like it, but...

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Mike

"We're not heroes - we're from Finchley"

Mission creep...

http://forum.alienslegacy.com/viewtopic.php?t=3413

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"Everybody online... lookin' good".
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A possible solution within the Law?...

http://forum.alienslegacy.com/viewtopic.php?t=4037

VCRA - Collecting RIFs and the formation of ARC™


 

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"Everybody online... lookin' good".
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If some state legislators here in the U.S. have their way, we on this side of the pond may be seeing more laws similar to this coming our way.

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Guess the museum defence is worldwide?


Those other two exceptions make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Who hunts with a fake gun? Maybe an air-rifle that is powerful enough, but shouldn't those fall under firearms anyway?

And "justifiable self defense"? Again, what does this imply?

I was about to be robbed so I pulled out my realistic toy M92 and scarred the thugs away.

Best case senario the thugs run away (or are captured by the police). Worst case the thugs pull out their real guns an blow away the victim or the victim gets shot by the police.

At any rate I think it is extrodinarily dangerous to encourage the public that it would be ok to carry an imitation firearm for the purpose of self defense.

What about a kid who brings one to school because he wants to scare off the bullies who have been beating him up for his lunch money- then the school is evacuated and the SWAT team called in because someone saw this kid with a gun?


If all they are asking for are stiffer penalties for people who commit crimes with fake weapons/ disturb the public peace by brandishing them in public in a manner that can be perceived as threatening (IE acting like an idiot with what looks like a real gun)... so be it. But removing realistic toys/replicas altogether is something else.

Haven't some states already banned replica guns? I thought there was a complete ban in NY?

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