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 Post subject: Help ID this Part on The Flame Unit
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:08 am 
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I'm in the middle of scratch building my Flame Unit and I need to ID a part on it,

Photo of one of the prop Flame Units used in the film

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So does any one what the Prop Dept used ? or was it made for the film..?

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:17 am 
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Wasn't it some kind of coupler?

I've got a better reference pic here:

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:19 am 
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Thanks Vicky..... I bet you can not buy that nowadays :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:23 am 
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Judging by the ball bearings visible inside it in Vicky's picture it looks like some kind of pneumatic quick attach/release coupling device.

Which would make sense and make its presence more than just aesthetic. Perhaps that is where they hooked up an airline to either pressurise the bottle of fuel OR propel the jet of fuel on a working flame-thrower? I've not noticed to be honest on the footage of them testing the flame units whether they operate with an umbilical or not?

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:31 am 
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 12:23 pm 
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I did a bit of Googling and came up with this from a supplier in the Far East. The one in the photo is smaller than required but according to the data table on their website it is available in sizes with the dimensions LS & D from 48mm x 24mm to 132mm x 102mm so one of them should fit the bill. If you ask nicely you might be able to blag a free "sample" :twisted:

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 12:26 pm 
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As Winch has shown, if you Google Image Search for Quick Release Coupling you'll get many likely ones. :)

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:07 pm 
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We use quick release couplings at work, sadly the ones we use don't look anything like those, :evil: the problem will be getting the right size, as they are sized by the inner hole ...3/4" would take 3/4" male attachment .. and so on , i think have a few smaller one laying around some where, will have a look..

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:02 pm 
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The original part is made from brass and labeled as follows:
"THE HANSEN MFG. CO. CLEVELAND, OHIO U.S.A. * SERIES * 4-HK *"

The company doesn't exist any more by itself but their products are available through GUYSON INTERNATIONAL LIMITED:
http://www.guysonlib.co.uk/lib/hansen/hansen_hk_self_sealing.pdf

Sadly, the new parts differ slightly from the older ones. If you should stumble over a pile of these, please let me know - I'd be in for one as well. :wink:

I hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:11 pm 
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Gotta love this place! Is there anything left that hasn't been identified?

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:15 pm 
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The arm of the shoulder lamp. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:38 pm 
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Thanks Stefan is there anything you don't know ? :wink: that company does not list prices, once i know the nearest size and model i'll e-mail them and see what the price is.. :(


Update : have found some one e-bay selling these 3/4" pipe fitting which would make it over 1" female socket , going to take a chance and have brought it..

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:50 pm 
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I was gonna take pics of mine last night, but the bloody camera's died!
EVENTUALLY, I'll properly document my collection!
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:27 pm 
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I won this on E-bay

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It's a 3/4 " attachment so the Female end should be about 1" so over all size will be well over 1" so hopefully it will look right on the Flamer .. not 100% SA but it will do

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:50 pm 
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Glenn wrote:
.. not 100% SA but it will do

I reckon a bit of filler around the neck to angle it and a bit around the stamped lettering will make it look almost perfect.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:54 pm 
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The hardest part will be attaching this to my Flame unit , with out it breaking off at some point.. got a e-mail today they have already shipped it..! :D

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:43 pm 
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Just screw it onto a piece of pipe and that pipe into place - that way it's more likely that you'll break the flamer before you'll loose the part.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:48 pm 
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Rather than start another thread here's my Flame build, after i took this picture i realised i attached the trigger / grip at the wrong angle.. :roll:

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It's still in a rough stage, but it's getting there, most of this build i used bits and pieces i had laying around , the only thing i have brought so far is a cheap two tone M16 and 2 tubs of P38 .. :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:56 pm 
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Looking good! Where did you get your 203 hand guard from? I'm planning on trying to put my Wilco kit together for Expo but that doesn't mean I won't be building another one later with better parts.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:04 pm 
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Years ago a model company from Japan call ...L/S models, made 1/1 scale models kits of guns.. :shock: i picked up a M16 and XM177 plus a M203 genade launcher conversion kit , i also had at one stage a dozen other guns/ kits.
I think most shops that sell airsoft sell the M203 guard but it's how much you want to pay for one..

So my build is 70% plastic 10% wood and 20% P38 :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:14 pm 
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Yeah, I wish I'd picked up a load of cheap springers before the VCRB came in.

Only 20% P38? ;)

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:36 pm 
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Mole wrote:
Yeah, I wish I'd picked up a load of cheap springers before the VCRB came in.

Only 20% P38? ;)



Well i paid about £20 for a two tone M16 which you can still buy..... yeah only 20% P38 sanded most of it off :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:32 am 
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Looking GREAT Glenn so far bar the slight error ;)

I remember the old model kits of guns. That`s when Airsoft was truely in its infancy.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:43 am 
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Glenn wrote:
Well i paid about £20 for a two tone M16 which you can still buy..... yeah only 20% P38 sanded most of it off :lol:


Yeah, I've got an old M16 which I'm using for something else at the mo. Been trying to replace it with an M4 but the one I had found for £35 is out of stock now I've got some money. Bloody typical! LOL!

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:40 pm 
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Excellent Job Glenn!!
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