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 Post subject: Smartgun WIP
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:49 am 

Country: United Kingdom
Hi all,

thought i'd post some pics of my on-going smartgun build. it's based around a deactivated Yugoslavian copy of the MG42. Man this thing is heavy.

placeholder frontend but it'll do for now. Bike parts in place for a test fit, these things are filthy and need a good clean before being painted.
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I have used a motorbike handlebar assembly as the attachment to the gun body. Not really screen accurate but it works.
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rear end block is just a placeholder until I can make a resin cast.
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still got a lot to do as you can see.


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 Post subject: Re: Smartgun WIP
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:22 am 
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Looking good so far. :)

>I have used a motorbike handlebar assembly as the attachment to the gun body.
>Not really screen accurate but it works.

I have done a lighter AirSoft build, but even this required a very solid connection to handle the weight.

If you don’t want to use a welder here I can only second to make it as strong as possible.
The same goes for the back part.

Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to your WIP pictures.
Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Smartgun WIP
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:42 pm 

Country: United Kingdom
yeah I've only bolted everything through so far. I can maybe have a go at welding up the handle mount and back end at a later date but my welding skills are currently atrocious (you might be able to see the welding already done on the connection between the stem and the handlebar mount...yuk :)

I used to love airsoft before the VCR came along....getting too old to run around forests in camo these days to get my exemption.

my wip pics may take a back seat for a while because I've just scored (thanks to armourer) some parts to continue with my pulse rifle.

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 Post subject: Re: Smartgun WIP
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:05 pm 

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wow, it's really been 5 years since I started this thread and only now I've made some progress with it.

here is a pic heavy log of my recent build steps

1) current progress of the whole thing

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2) some pics of the front

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:08 pm 

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some pics of the back

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 Post subject: Re: Smartgun WIP
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:15 pm 

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some mid build pics of the rear section

These are the bit's I've used for the cable tube
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3d printed rear block and the assembled cable tube
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threaded rod into stock mount + threaded handle grip
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:25 pm 

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(failed) 3d printed trigger guard
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threaded rod attachment point for handle stem
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threaded handle stem
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handle assembly
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So I've still got lots to do. I've no experience with a welder but i'm going to have to learn. Really enjoying this project now, wish it hadn't been so long but life got in the way.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:12 am 
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Wouah very nice!

You make the nozzle?

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 Post subject: Re: Smartgun WIP
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:07 am 

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Storm56 wrote:
Wouah very nice!You make the nozzle?


Hi, yep i made it a long while back, maybe a year or so. I've been procrasting about how to attach it but in the end i went with jb weld.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:18 pm 
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And the 'camera' and other bits? All 3D printed? Cool stuff.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:02 pm 

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bigbisont wrote:
And the 'camera' and other bits? All 3D printed? Cool stuff.


Yeah, i modelled the camera and printed it. It's in no way screen acurate but i wanted to make it look a bit less boxy and a little more detailed. I printed the block at the back and the trigger guard as well.

by the way i'm more than happy to share the last two if anyone wants them. don't think i have the model for the camera any more.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:11 pm 
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Great progress! I like the handle and your 3D Designs.
Will also make that disc thing on the front of the ammo drum?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:25 pm 

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577_ops wrote:
Great progress! I like the handle and your 3D Designs.
Will also make that disc thing on the front of the ammo drum?


thanks, yes i'll probably print that bit but I want to make the shroud bit from metal if I can.


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 Post subject: Re: Smartgun WIP
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:24 pm 

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the drum disc isn't too tough to model but i'm unsure how to connect it to the shroud. lots of JB weld I guess :)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:55 pm 
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martinr1000 wrote:
the drum disc isn't too tough to model but i'm unsure how to connect it to the shroud. lots of JB weld I guess :)

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: like: Yes, that is the one. Metal would be cooler, but gluing 3D printed parts is easier.
At the end it might just be a not so relevant weight question.

BTW: What arm/springs do you use?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:09 pm 

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577_ops wrote:
martinr1000 wrote:
the drum disc isn't too tough to model but i'm unsure how to connect it to the shroud. lots of JB weld I guess :)

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: like: Yes, that is the one. Metal would be cooler, but gluing 3D printed parts is easier.
At the end it might just be a not so relevant weight question.

BTW: What arm/springs do you use?


At the moment I don't have any plans to mount it on a vest. Too much money. I remember one of the members here made one a while back so maybe that would be an option


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:25 pm 
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If you look around there are also tutorials online for making your own budget steadicam harness and arm.

I looked into this option but taking the time of getting materials and work into account I decided it was worth the money to buy a rig. I got the CamTree rig off eBay for around $250.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:35 pm 

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Erik_MAA wrote:
If you look around there are also tutorials online for making your own budget steadicam harness and arm.

I looked into this option but taking the time of getting materials and work into account I decided it was worth the money to buy a rig. I got the CamTree rig off eBay for around $250.


Hi, I would buy if I could believe me but the gun being full metal is mega heavy and the big payload versions of the Steadicam are quite expensive. I've seen some Chinese versions for about £500 but they still aren't really rated for the weight of the gun which is going to be over 15kg with all the bits i'm putting on it.

To be honest i'm quite happy to build it and display it in much the same way as the HCG guns are mounted on a display stand. I'll have a look and see if I can find some build tutorials for the arm though. half the fun is building things after all :)

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 Post subject: Re: Smartgun WIP
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:11 pm 

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well I told you my welding was bad :) oh well it's done now and i'm happy enough with it. it really solid so all good. I'm waiting on some proper gunmetal paint to come next week so it'll start to look a bit better then.

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I've also started to form the aluminium for the drum cover and am waiting for some 3d printed parts to carry on with it. hoping to get this finished in the next week or so.

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