All you really have to worry about is exemption from VRCA - ie be a theatrical person, re-enactor or skirmisher.

It's illegal to buy, import or manufacture an RIF without that exemption.
It's illegal to brandish a weapon in a public place. THAT is the one to be careful about.

Transportation is another issue, so just make sure it's cased, covered and secured.

As I think someone mentioned earlier in the thread. It doesn't make any difference if your Airsoft PR is "deactivated" or not. The law concerns how it LOOKS. If it looks like a real gun, regardless of wether it can fire plastic pellets or not then it is a realistic imitation. If it CANT fire plastic pellets anymore it is STILL a realistic imitation.
Owning such a gun is perfectly legal if you had it before the VCRA came in or afterwards if you qualify under an excemption.
Simply proving that the gun cannot fire pellets anymore does not make it excempt.

I don't think you have anything to worry about and persaonlly I think you've put your prop weapon at more risk or being seized by submitting for inspection than if you had just carried on and taken it to shows like the rest of us.
Personally, I would never submit my gun of my own free will and would not even mention to the police that I take it to shows and carry it around incase they decide to come and inspect anyone else's

Cheers

Darren

Got to be with Darren on this one... I don't think a single person on this forum has ever mentioned a weapon being seized and cut-up by way of being found during transportation. Obviously going through Customs is a different story and people are wise-enough not to take the risk without documentation (if at all) - but I think all this will do is increase the awareness of our props to the authorities and as such could jeopardise the freedom we have at con's.


Martin

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Or educate them on how many responsible owners take care of their 'props' at conventions
Again its 50/50.

I'm just amazed at the law change since I left - WOW!!

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Concerning actual deactivated guns- I believe it was said a while back that de-acts are not considered RIFs because of how expensive they are. An average bloke is not going to spend hundreds of pounds for a de-act to rob a liquor store with as it would defeat the purpose of obtaining money from the robbery itself.


Kevin

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As I understood it, DeActs are not Imitation firearms, because they are by defnition, real ones.
They already come with regs and certification, so they were excluded.

I see.

I wonder if it works the same way here- one of our definitions of a replica is that it must not in and of itself be a firearm.

Kevin

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Well, good news.

It's not endanger. lol

This is nothing but a simple check. They can't take it off me due to being over 18. If so when they look, being non-functional and also due to i've not been caught or nether told them that i've taken it out in public.

Good news peeps. I'm going to get some certification after the County Law has for seen it. Phew!
I have been told that i don't have anything to worrie about.......... for now!

lol

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I just don't understand how they can 'certify' something that cannot be certified. Oh well, your call.

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lol.

I asked myself the same thing when i was aruging with my dad.

but hopefully it prooves that i can carry it where i like when i like. - i,e "conventions"

Can't argue with that can you.

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13th Regt. 1st Batt. 'Freebooters'

Hi Guys, found you while Googling something and signed up!

Just like to chip in with a minor correction. It's my understanding that it's illegal to SELL not buy without the purchaser being able to claim the defense. You commit the offense by selling, that's why the Reverend Scapegoat says if they're happy to sell you're OK to buy. Defense or not you'd be in the clear, obviously if you manufacture or import you need to be able to claim the specific defense.

But yes I agree the one to be careful about is being seen in public with something the ordinary punter might think is a real firearm - and let's face it that can be a table leg in a carrier bag to take an extreme case so my M41 would qualify in my mind.

NO.

It will prove that it's a non-functional prop.
It does NOT mean you can carry it where you like, because it still looks like a gun and you need a VERY good reason to be in possession of it outside your home.

I don't care what it can or cannot do - Assume it is a real gun and behave accordingly... Because the Police will.

Woody,

Sorry matey, totally frazled up then dude. Not meaning that.

I know the rules and laws etc.

I'm just being paranoid mate. lol

I hope you can understand if you had a £???.?? prop taken of you, you would feel gutted, Not for missuse. But pulled by any means from possible search, scan or assumption.

You are right, my mistake, it proves it's a prop. And that it's been checked by someone.

I think for me it clarifies that im able to take it out "not in public view". Thats just silly. But you know from mine to a convention.

To all thats what i'm on about.

I follow the rules and laws from the UKCM that G-man, mantroon and the rest laid down to protect my safety and your safety.

Sorry chaps if i blown this out of size and confussion.

Sorry to all!

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13th Regt. 1st Batt. 'Freebooters'

No worries, but we'd all do well to be very specific about this, in thought, word and deed.
Our rules are a simple few and really only cover weaponry, but they're what we need to be safe and well-regarded.

Treat it like it is real and all should be well.

Cheers Woody, And to everyone!

=]

Cheers

Callum

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A05/TQ1.0.02160E1

13th Regt. 1st Batt. 'Freebooters'

Happy to help.

It's just that some of us, myself included, have been trained to handle real firearms, so we take weapon safety very seriously.
Like Al Matthews says in the documentary, it becomes a real issue for us when people get flippant in anyway about them.

I don't like it when people walk around with fingers on triggers.... but unlike Al, I'm not too likely to shove it down your throat

It's good to see you guys are cool.

One thing we must remember is that on this forum we're all just fans, not soldiers.

While passing on advice about carrying PRs etc. and friendly discussion about the UK gun laws is appreciated those of you in the forces should understand that many members have no military experience maybe other than watching 'Aliens'.

Harry

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True Harry,

But it was me being pantsy over my PR, I'm only really getting documentation for the safety of it really.

Just blew out of proportion.

But we're good. I just didn't want to make any enemies, Can't afford to. Everyone is my brothers in arms.

Woody i can see where you are coming from. I understand deeply. =]

Cheers

Callum.

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13th Regt. 1st Batt. 'Freebooters'

Cheers H.

I do understand, hence not flying off the handle as I have with people elsewhere who should have known better (long story, not Aliens related).

I would like people to be aware as the Legacy groups have a very good reputation because of little things like this.

Hi all,

I recently had my Wait List Reservation for the Olive Drab version of the PR change to a payment order (6 pay). Prior to placing the order I contacted HGC regarding having it shipped to the UK, here's the response I received from Alex:

"Thank you for your email! We do ship the United Kingdom, and with this item we will be declaring on customs that it is a Replica Non-Functional Resin Movie Prop. We will do our best to be sure the information on the customs forms do not raise any eyebrows with customs.
 
We do advise customers to check their import regulations, however we have been shipping replica "weapon" movie props for quite some time now and we have not had any issues importing in the England or any surrounding countries".

After having the Wait List Reservation converted, I became concerned about the Customs/Replica Firearm issue. The first payment is due in a couple of days, I've not had chance to read through the posts on here yet, please forgive me for not doing so. Can someone advise me where I stand regarding having one shipped over?

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks,

Lee.

It could come through with no problems... It could get seized and destroyed, if you can't prove that you're able to avail yourself of the Specific Defence in place for Airsoft Skirmishers ( The easiest way for someone to put themselves in a position to legally buy a RIF. )

Short version - Go to at least three skirmishes at one airsoft site, and after two months you will be able to have your name added to the UKARA national database.
Customs can then check your status, and release the Pulse Rifle to you.


I'm well aware of the daftness in this, given that the item in question cannot fire even a BB... But them's the facts.

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Thanks alot for the quick & helpful reply mate , I appreciate it:)

I need to decide quickly what I need to do, I really want the OD vers. over the BB, I know these can be picked up over here. I guess if I do have to cancel, at least it'll give someone else the opportunity to pick one up. I have wanted a decend PR for years, I couldn't
believe my eyes when it showed..

Lee.