UPDATE - I'VE OBTAINED A SCREEN ACCURATE PRINTED SULACO PATCH

Dear All,

If someone has a set of SA printed insignia (Screaming Eagle, USCM Delta, SULACO Badge and US Colonial Marines Rocker etc) then I'd be happy to arrange a new run and coordinate a supply for board members... Perhaps in the kinds of numbers that would ensure a decent ongoing supply...

I'll arrange to get artwork run up (unless we already have this somewhere with correct sizing and fonts and colours)

It's important to ensure the materials accurately reflect the 'canon' versions... With versions for UKCM and UACM being run at the same time perhaps...

I've had British WW2 printed insignia copied exactly (and I mean exactly) in the past in large numbers for large scale living history events... So I'm not a stranger to coordinating this kind of thing and ensuring its done properly. Appropriate measures can be taken so as not to compromise real screen used versions...

I've no idea how the original printed versions would hold up to laundering... So it's something to consider in relation to how we plan materials and inks...

Happy to discuss...

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I've got a set of patches that I'm told are screen accurate.

They're printed on a rubberised background, thats the best way to describe it.

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UKCM XO 501st Regt. 1st Batt. The Bucketheads

"Game over man!"

The originals were screen printed.

Hi chaps - it's getting the combination of:

(1) art work
(2) size
(3) material look and feel and backing
(4) inks / colours and results when they print onto the right material
(5) longevity

Which is the clincher. All insignia deteriorates in a wash cycle... But printed is prone to damage and one idea is to consider Velcro backing to allow removal for laundry...

Adie - would you put some close ups on the forum please?

The next question is who, if anyone, would be willing to supply a set for copying?

Regards,

Pete

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I'll post mine up so you can have a look

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"Game over man!"

Lovely, cheers...

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This is the version I have

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"Game over man!"

Has anyone got any ideas as to who may be willing to send me a set to reproduce and how accurate the previously duplicated sets actually are? I got my patches and pins stuff through the other day and although they're ok... They're still a bit rough for detail... Especially the SULACO patch...

The provider of a set of badges would get a full set of repro insignia for free. And I'd be looking to sell the badges on 'at cost'. Either that, or just provide manufacturer details for forum members to contact directly. As previously stated, the intention would be to ensure a ongoing supply of the patches for new and existing members and vary artwork accordingly to ensure supplies for USCM, UKCM and UACM insignia variations...

Who coordinated past printed runs? Has anyone got the artwork correct to avoid the need to reinvent the wheel and introduce the risk of errors ruining the accuracy and eventual demand.

Like I say chaps, I'm happy to coordinate this. I do, however realise that people may be hesitant to trust a forum member with insignia blindly.

If need be, please put me in touch with someone who had coordinated this before and I'll see if I can kick start another batch. That may avoid the need to have valuable badges floating around in the post or sending out items of a collection to strangers.

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Eight or nine years back, I did the artwork for Steve LaBoyteaux who did a run of screen printed patches. I did my artwork on top of images of screen used patches, so the artwork should have been pretty close. I also remember him giving me dimensions, so the overall size should have also been accurate.

However, the artwork I did is currently saved to discs that I can no longer access. I would have been more than happy to supply you with it.

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Ah - That's a pity... Are the disc corrupted or left somewhere you can't get back to?

At the moment, this seems a little like mission impossible... To get the badges spot on, we'd need to have actual badges in our hands I think... To match the canon look and feel exactly with correct artwork...

Does anyone think Harry Harris may be able to help?

The last thing I want to do it invest time and effort and money into a project for people to say "That's not right..."

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And there is your problem. An 'exact' replica could easily be misrepresented and sold as an original. The last thing a collector needs is hundreds of exact copies on the market.

The art is on zip discs and all the computers I have access to are incompatible with the zip disc drive.

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And there is your problem. An 'exact' replica could easily be misrepresented and sold as an original. The last thing a collector needs is hundreds of exact copies on the market.[/quote]

I agree - but as stated further up this thread, steps can be taken to ensure reproductions are appropriately marked or different from originals to ensure a completely 'canon' look whilst preserving the integrity of originals...

To be honest, I'm an old hand at this sort of thing... There'll always be dishonest types out there who'll try to pass off gear as original. There's little point in denying ourselves access to spot on kit because of this type of person. In promoting the repro badges, we could ensure the costuming and collecting community are aware of the differences... By posting them on this site and making them widely available on the web.

Kind regards,

Pete

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DropshipBob - I could perhaps get a close friend who is a whizz with IT to access them but sending them to the UK may be a bit of a mission and you may have your own confidential stuff on them... Is there an IT specialist near you who could perhaps help?

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There may be, I'll have to look into it.

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Ok mate that would be great... Happy to help in any way I can...

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I think this is a great idea and would love to see a new run of SA silk screened patches made available here. I'm currently working on some one-off patches that will be airbrushed with frisket paper stencils and textile inks. I used to do a lot of silkscreen printing years ago on T-shirts and other fabrics using various textile inks that held up well to frequent washings when heat set, especially if laundered by hand in cold water. I no longer have access to the equipment to undertake a project like this, but I'm sure this method would work well for reproducing SA patches if screen printed onto suitable patch material, like a cotton or cotton blend.


I don't know if I can be of any help with this, but I have an older model Mac G3 with a swap-out zip disc drive that I still use on occasion to transfer old photos & stuff onto flash drives for use on my Macbook. I could probably do that for you in a matter of minutes. If you don't have any luck finding someone closer to home to help you, please shoot me a PM and maybe we can work something out.

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Has anyone else got any ideas on how to take this forward in case the old artwork recovery idea doesn't come off?

Regardless, we still new sight of a set of badges to ensure they are SA and as 'canon' as possible in look and feel... Otherwise, we'll be burning cash blind...

Had anyone got any further ideas?

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Dear All - Thread bump on this as I've managed to obtain a printed SULACO badge...

I just need to locate a screaming eagle, a delta and a rocker patch to make this viable...

I can copy the sizing and have the artwork reproduced...

I can then offer UKCM and UACM versions with the lion etc...

If someone is willing to help with the loan or ideally sale of any spares they have, or any artwork already done, then that'd be great...

I'll gauge interest on the BASE PX but I need to talk to suppliers and get this priced up etc.

Regards,

Pete

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I just saw this thread.

That sulaco patch is from my run of digitally printed patches from several years ago.


I have all the artwork that you are looking for, send me a PM.

Cheers Matt, PM inbound...

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Can't believe this was six years ago..
Reg. Kit:

Subdued kit:

(ebay seller bandwagon jumped on this shortly after release)
Armat logo + Data plate

Accurate overlock detail on the Eagle and US Flag:

Subdued Patches on MAA 2pat:

Now that.... Is pure awesome.

Proper insignia!

Did you have the reg Delta as well?

Wish I'd been on the forum 6 years ago!

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Sorry for the thread bump but i'm on the look out for printed patches and was wondering if anyone had any leads?

Hi - After a lot of hunting and some help from Matt Noble finding some patches for sale I eventually got a set of USCM insignia in printed...

They are from a run Noble did 6 years ago or more... And are, of course, top notch.

I had intended to try to coordinate a run, but a lack of interest in these threads put me off a bit... I admit, however I've not run an INT thread... But at the time with no examples of badges or materials, no art work and no dimensions I was on a hiding to nothing for an INT thread...

Noble did all the screen used badges in printed apart from the delta (he did a subdued delta only as I understand). I'm guessing that because some people might not have been able to agree on whether the background on the delta was blue or black (but that's conjecture)...

The UKCM do their own patches in printed I think... I want a full set but the latest batch is sold out and I'll have to wait for the next run... I'm still putting together my kit at the moment...

I'm hoping to be able to help coordinate something badge wise... Matt Noble has all the artwork and dimensions to hand for USCM stuff... So watch this space...

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