Do you mean direct to the person ordering Tom?

Most of the UK folk ordered them from Propstore- who ordered them from HCG.

I "think" there may have been one guy in the UK who ordered directly from HCG.

But from the posts, it does look like the PRs did make it into the UK- and for some reason skirtted their replica firearm laws.

I'm worried about Redeyekho (from Alberta, Canada) who said his PR was stuck in Customs.


Kevin

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Been stuck there for the last 6 business days


Into Foreign Customs, August 15, 2010, 8:14 am, CANADA
Arrived Abroad, August 15, 2010, 8:14 am, CANADA
International Dispatch, August 11, 2010, 5:08 pm, ISC MIAMI FL (USPS)
Arrival
Electronic Shipping Info Received, August 10, 2010

Ouch, stuck in Customs is NEVER a good thing

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Now I don't want to step on any toes but your PR has an extreme droop, no talk about it.

What I call "The fish eye" is the tourist lens so you get a wider view most single lens cameras has one. As Im not into it I say most, cause every cam I have ever owned have it. But My friends Systematic don't (so it corresponds to his statement). Not that it matter on your pics but I can see that your camera has one too as you can see the inside of your stock and at the same time if looking through the holes of the vent rail on top of the barrel you can see that the holes closest to the shroud there is no white table visible trough but the more you get to your right the more of table you can see. So unless the gun is pointing outwards I say there is a lens distortion. As said its not my real deal getting in to these arguments as it's outside my field of expertise, but theory is with a flat lens (?) systematic you would have to stand father back, but the gun would be almost completely flat i.e. white table through all holes and very little rear inside of the stock. And also I must under line that the "Fish eye" is just my theory of strange angled photos of screen used PRs as when I photograph art I some times note that the corners of the paintings "hang down".

Any way issue is that I'm very sorry for you PR, I would be a broke man too and I think HCG should take more responsibility. We know that production was delayed to "poor standards", wonder what was "poor". I my self will sit here and wait until some one comes up with a good way of fixing it.

I also noted that on mine that the GL rail is very frail and some holes are bent slightly inwards on the bottom near the loading "hole". Thing is its here many will place the other hand to hold the gun, plastic is too soft here so even if I manually correct it the plastic is too elastic and returns immediately (hmm I rally don't want to mess with it but I might be forced in the future to get a metal SPAS cage and do some surgical stuff).

/J

I took my PR to work yesterday (to show to some colleagues who are fans of the film) and none of them noticed the droop.

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"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

Because were all spoilt and fribe for perfection, Steve.

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13th Regt. 1st Batt. 'Freebooters'

lol not to rub it in but my really bad old resin comet miniatures rifle has no droop at all and cost a fraction of the HCG

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Well of course they didn't...


They're all llamas.


Kevin

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Maybe you should show it another Marine .. that lives near by .. for a second opinion ..

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Homers Hero's..
Drops so Far.... 29 and counting

No need; it's just like my G&P PR, but with a drooping barrel.

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Steve
Corporal in 69th Regt. 1st Batt. Homer’s Heroes.

"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

Ahahahaha-ha!

I meant my other job; the one where I'm not shown respect.

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Steve
Corporal in 69th Regt. 1st Batt. Homer’s Heroes.

"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

Im am thankful I didnt get one of these. I want the shrouds but $900 for a pair of shrouds and a wall plaque doesnt seem worth it. It seems as if someone should be able to make some aluminum shrouds cheaper than that.

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Go on then.

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Steve
Corporal in 69th Regt. 1st Batt. Homer’s Heroes.

"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

Been looked into by many people. To make a single one using CNC has been done but ended up costing over $3000 because of the time it took IIRC. To make it out of castings is much cheaper or course, but only if you're making hundreds of them (like HCG did). That is why when the opportunity came up to get these HCG PRs for less than $1000, many people (like me) ordered one just to rip the shrouds off.

6 days is nadda. I had a back rest for a scooter in customs for almost a month. It's not a sign they're red flagging it, only that they're incredibly overloaded/inefficient. Not that they're NOT flagging it. The fascists don't follow Canadian law in regards anything else so why should this be any different. Just because it's a replica of a nonexistant gun, doesn't mean it won't be used to hold up a Domo. d:

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Not too sure what you meant by all that.

For one thing nothing is "flagged", you either get to keep it (it passed Customs), or you don't (Customs seizes and destroys it).

As for "non-existant" gun, this is true- But Customs Canada would be taking a long hard look at the SPAS cage and Thompson receiver/grip sections. Both of these are real World guns. You are also not allowed to import "componants" of a replica firearm, (in other words the replica firearm ban covers parts, not just the entire gun).

By the way that last part about componants- I know from first hand experience.

Unfortuantely although a Pulse Rifle by definition of the law is NOT a replica firearm, the parts used to complete the rifle ARE replica firearm parts.

Okay so this is what I know Redeye:

If you don't get your PR after say three or four weeks, it has most likely been seized by Customs. You will receive a letter in the mail explaining that you have attempted to import a prohibited device.

You will be given three options-

1. Allow the rifle to be destroyed. This is an admission of guilt on your part- your punisment is the loss of the rifle. It is essentially a slap on the wrist as nothing more will come of this (so long as you do not attempt to try it again).

2. Appeal the seizure- You will be given the option to fight the decision- I don't know exactly what this involves, but your best defense is that the rifle is of a non existant weapon (which is one of the three requirements of the definition of a replica firearm in Canada).

Another bonus might be that attempting to break the gun down into its componant parts would result in the destruction of the rifle itself due to its construction. The componants would not survive taking the shrouds off.

3. Return the gun to its point of origin. This one is major BS. Because the rifle is already within the Canadian border, you will be required to obtain a "prohibited device export permit" to be allowed to ship it back out of the country. As far as I am aware (but I'm not 100% sure about this), they only give these permits to businesses, not individuals.

You will also have to use a Customs Canada approved carrier to transport the device once you have jumped through the rings of fire to get an export permit. You won't be allowed to use Canada Post (unless they happen to be approved).


I went through all this back in 2006 when I tried to import an airsoft Thompson. In the end the only choice was to allow the gun to be destroyed and eat the loss of money (which was only $100 so it wasn't a big deal).


If your PR is seized, your best bet is to do everything you can to appeal the seizure.

But fingers crossed it doesn't come to this. Believe me if you do get your PR I'll be jumping for joy just as much as you!


Kevin

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well now hcg says they will not be able to give me a refund because i dont have the card that i put the deposit down with anymore

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Alpha squad. Burton's Bandits

Thanks for the info Kevin. I had sorta of the same problem a few years back. Not with my MR Stormtrooper, Han Solo, or Rebel blaster going through customs. I had a hand made holster ( it was very crappy at best) It was for my Han Solo costume... but because the seller wrote "holster" in the description. I had a criminal record check and they also checked if I had any guns registered in Canada. All for a $25 holster that didn't even fit my Hasbro blaster I had to phone customs to tell them that it was for a halloween costume. I was telling this lady on the other end it was for a Han Solo costume but she didn't know who that was.. so I explained it was a Star Wars costume and she said she had heard of Star Wars and then approved the package to go through.

This was an email that I had sent to HCG last year.

Hi Dave,

We have no reason to believe there will be any issues shipping this. We have been shipping replica non-functional movie props for some time now without any concerns, especially to Canada. We will be marking on the customs forms that this is a Non-Functional Replica Movie Prop. We have been shipping Rambo knives, Spirit Katana's and Jigsaw Gauntlets all over the world with no problems.

Have a wonderful day!

Regards,
Alexandra Fisher
Hollywood Collectibles Group
www.hollywood-collectibles.com



In a message dated 06/08/09 18:42:02 Eastern Daylight Time, redeyekho writes:
Hi Alex,

Thanks for the quick reply. I also have another concern if I don't cancell
my order. Do you guys see any problems shipping this across the border to
Canada? What happens if the pulse rifle gets seized and destroyed? Should
this happen... will I get reinbursed? Dave

Got mine directly from HCG and was landed with a £125 customs charge!'.

The GL port was loose and when i pulled back the bolt on the thompson, 'it broke off!!'

Not a bad price though for a PR with metal shells, - the PR i built using real steel, airsoft parts and aluminum shells cost me a lot more time and money than that!.

What I meant by "all that" was that the system is slow. Some things get an automatic pass, some things get a 'check this' and some things get a 'holy shit, this might be bad/taxable!'. My friend works for CCRA, sorting imports. This is where my information comes from. While you are correct in the options once something has been seized, a delay in getting through customs is not a guarantee that it has been so classified.

Thank you for again reminding me why I do not post on this forum. Innocent comments are met with hostility and derission unless posted by the inner circle. Many forums are just like that. *shrug*

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Finally got confirmation on my PR being shipped. Gotta say I'm a little leery of what I'll get.

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The sensitivity of your hostility and derision detectors is impressive. Or, was it just a difference of opinion on a trivial issue that is common on say, a discussion forum?

I know how it is though - I've been there a few times. Sometimes it just seems that way. A bad day or something more serious? If it's the later, make sure you open up to a friend. Or just post up a ranting thread in OT. It helps.

ranting threads are good
good way to hurl abuse etc at people and let off some steam

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Sorry for the confusion, Kevin. I meant ANY of them. Kinda rhetorical question, I know. ...and I'm sure you already know, that I know, that you know, that I already know, you know. Thanks though!!

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Tom

Laced with words like "fascists".


Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

And by the way- your signature drips of irony here.


Kevin

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