Admin note: Please realise that this discussion took place right at the inception of the board. The assumption that the correct drill was the the Hilti was not found out to be wrong untill much later.
Birdie15 said on 5/22/00 :
Here's a little one...I was watching the Aliens DVD last night and noticed for the first time that the green and red leds on the bottom of the scanner (from the thyristor flash) flash on and off with the pulse of the scanner. Guess they must have hooked up a circuit in the Hama to control the light effects.
later!
Birdie
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Harry Harris said on 5/24/00 :
Pusher,
Hi There.
Sorry to have to correct you but that image is of an original!
It appeared in 'Sci Fi & Fantasy Models International' magazine, issue 21 which carried a feature on prop maestro Terry Reed.
Birdie,
In response to your posting about the LED's on the Tracker screen box ("...the green and red leds flash on and off with the pulse of the scanner.") there's a much simpler explanation I'm afraid!
The 'LED's' on the flashgun panel are in fact coloured plastic lenses behind which are small bulbs. When this panel is removed from the flashgun and placed on the slide viewer the lenses line up with the slot into which slides would be placed.
What you're seeing in the movie is simply light from the flashing bulb inside the viewer leaking through that slot and giving the impression of flashing LED's. If you notice in the shots where the tracker screen display is shown; those using a small TV screen in place of the slide viewer, the 'LED's' don't appear to flash.
Lastly it would appear that some of the original Trackers had the green and red lenses on that panel (my screen box is original and does have them) whereas in the "no, no you're just reading me" scene the light appears to be white, indicating that the lenses are not present.
Regards,
Harry Harris.
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Grand Milk Carton said on 5/25/00 :
Anyone have the info on the model Drill casing that was used?
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sjanish said on 5/26/00 :
Hey GMC(and everyone else for that matter), how long have you been looking for the drill case?
I have been watching ebay for ~3 years now. The closest I have seen is probably the Hilti TE-12. I have pawn shoped and flea marketed 3-4 times with no luck...I did stumble across a Hilti TE-1, which I took as a good omen as it was in the first shop I tried that day but I came up totally empty.
I agree with Birdie, it has to exist, but with so many of us searching I am really amazed that none of us has had any real luck.
Nobody really knows which Hilti model to look for, or even if the real thing is a Hilti. If there is old stock there I would spend some time studying any pictures of the tracker and then go look at what the guy has.
Here is what I know/have heard:
- heard it is a TE-11, have never seen one in 3 years of looking, suspect it doesn't exist or only saw VERY breif production time
- the TE-12 looks close, but is not the one; same with the TE-14, TE-22, and TE-24
Let us know if you find anything.
Scott
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aliensarchive said on 6/2/00 :
Nathan's replica made by the original propmaker was red underneath which is a good clue as any to it being a Hilti.
There are some big ass photos of a tracker in issue 45, unfortunately they are black and white and I also think it is Harry's replica which you've already seen on his web site.
Paul Francis once gave me a list of all the Aliens props that Bob Burns has, the list included a MT. Does anyone know if Bob Burns really has an original tracker?
Dan.
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Harry Harris said on 6/3/00 :
Dan,
I know what you mean about the red plastic casing but I think some models of Kango drill were red too.
The photos in Science fiction & Fantasy Models issue 45 are indeed of my replica tracker.
I know Bob has a motion tracker from Alien, it's on the '5th disc' of the DVD set, perhaps that's the one that Paul was referring to.
Regards,
Harry Harris
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aliensarchive said on 6/5/00 :
Bob Burn's cameo appearance (2 minutes? Didn't he desrve more?) on the 5th disc does indead show the Alien tracker. However P. Francis's list did include the Aliens version, along with several other props from Aliens that have never been photographed for magazines and would only have been seen by visitors to his basement.
Not that any original tracker would have the brand and model of the drill visible as it doesn't show up on the castings.
Dan.
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StevieRad said on 6/18/00 :
I spoke with Hilti last week.......they siad they never made a Hilti TE 11. At least to this perosn's knowledge, adn the fact that it was not in thier data base. he said they stopped working/making Torna in the 70's. I also faxed him a pic of the casing we are looking for. I am awaitng a response.
Steve
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Cerney1 6/20/00 :
Bob has the ORIGINAL tracker from ALIEN....
Not ALIENS.
Frank Cerney
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Harry Harris said on 6/21/00 :
Just a small update for you all;
I was chatting to Aliens prop maker Terry Reed at Pinewood Studios earlier today and produced a photograph of the Motion Tracker featured in the Aliens Technical Manual. (This is the tracker that was commissioned by Lawrence Nathan of ‘Fiction & Fantasy Models’ back in the 1990’s. Casts of it were sold at that time and one of these formed the basis for the replica tracker that’s on my site.)
Terry took one look at the photo and said ‘No, I didn’t make that’. It turns out that although all the correct dressing parts were used (aside from the screen box) it was in fact made by Dick Hewitt, who was video effects supervisor on Aliens and who also designed and installed the ‘Soundfire™’ system into Alien War London.
While I was with Terry I asked him if he could remember anything specific about the construction of the tracker but unfortunately he couldn’t. As with many props they were assembled quickly from bits & pieces that were lying around or from whatever was in stock in local shops. Sadly he couldn’t remember what the power tool casing was either so for the time being, the search continues!
Regards,
Harry Harris.
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USCM Pusher 6/30/00 :
For the new members on the board, I'll go ahead and restate that the main body, as alluded to on Harry's site, is that of a power drill casing, probably a hammer drill or the like. If you flip back to the first page of postings - you'll see some popular hunches on what type/model it could be - although no one has been able to ID it AS OF YET.
Another tidbit that some may find useful is the part marked "f. Shutter release timer unit" at Harry's "Components of the motion tracker" section. It is actually more commonly known as a "Self-Timer."
They are plentiful on eBay (Do a search for "Self timer") and may vary somewhat in design, but the basic unit looks as follows (Gee, I WISH we could post pics Dan...HINT, HINT):
members.aol.com/xthepushe...timer2.jpg
Paint it flat black, dull cote it a couple of times so the paint doesn't come off and your ready to atttach it alone or over a cut out back plate - and your ready to rock.
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aliensarchive said on 7/19/00 :
So there is a possibility that Dick Hewitt could ID the drill casing.
I may have a source for "Fiction and Fantasy" tracker casts in the UK, I just have to see if the mold is still good.
Dan.
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