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 Post subject: A field guide to original screen used Pulse Rifles
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:42 pm 
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It's quick and dirty, and my research may be a bit off, but I've uploaded some photos of some of the known originals that are out there in the "Aliens" section here:

http://alienscollection.com/props.html

Labeled them Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon for clarity sake.

Feel free to offer suggestions, add and or delete info - thanks!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:54 pm 
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Forgive my ignorance :|

But what differentiates the different Pulse Rifles?

Am I fair on my assumptions:
"Alpha" - Functional Thompson, resin GL
"Beta" - Functional Thompson, Dummy GL (deact 870)
"Delta" - unsure
"Gamma" - FULLY Functional Pulse Rifle

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:55 pm 
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Nice one Willie!

The Comic Con 2009 PR looks to be an Alien3 version painted green though.

Oh, and unless you're still uploading images these ones don't seem to load:

http://alienscollection.com/pulseriflebeta6.jpg
http://alienscollection.com/pulseriflebeta7.jpg
http://alienscollection.com/pulseriflebeta8.jpg

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:58 pm 
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Thanks H. - yeah, that's why I labelled it (A3 repaint), but maybe I should be more clear.

BigONE, as for your questions, others are more qualified to answer than me!

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I love how they "completed" the comicon rifle. What is that, black, open cell foam in the GL section? :mrgreen:

On a related note, have any of the stunt rifles ever shown up?

I recall someone in the UK was selling resin casts of them back in 2000-2001,
but those castings disappeared and I don't recall ever seeing one of the actual
production used stunt rifles pop up.

In retrospect, I wish I'd purchased one of the castings back then, but at the time I was after
"screen accuracy," not really realizing that the rifle was screen accurate.

Not "hero rifle" accurate, but stunt rifle accurate. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:51 pm 
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I love how they "completed" the comicon rifle. What is that, black, open cell foam in the GL section? :mrgreen:

As far as I know foam was put into the grenade launchers of the original 'Aliens' and 'Alien3' PRs.

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On a related note, have any of the stunt rifles ever shown up?

I know of at least one collector that has one, but to date they haven't shared any clear photos of it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:03 pm 
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Do you guys know which one is this one?

http://alienscollection.com/profilespr.jpg

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:12 pm 
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I think it's the one that Jim Latta bought which the Icons Pulse Rifle was (very loosely) based on. I'll check now, stand by to see me prove myself wrong! ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:44 pm 
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FYI Alpha was the unit we used for the HCG patterns.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:36 am 
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Pretty sure:

Delta is the full hero PR in the PSofL.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:42 am 
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Yep, that's the one Matt.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:09 am 
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Willie Goldman wrote:
http://alienscollection.com/profilespr.jpg

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:48 am 
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Yup, Delta is this one:

http://www.propstore.com/pulserifle.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:55 pm 
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I wonder if anyone could get the end barrel diameter on delta.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:18 am 

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Willie Goldman wrote:
Do you guys know which one is this one?

http://alienscollection.com/profilespr.jpg


Harry's correct, this is the former Icons Pulse Rifle. I don't think that you've got it pictured in your list Willie.

The Pulse Rifle you've labelled 'Epsilon' is the one that I own. It has a Thompson (now deactivated) with dummy shotgun.

There is another to add to the list - the one known as the 'Laurence Nathan' gun. It was assembled from original Aliens components some time prior to Alien 3 and is now with a collector in the US.

I know of one other that's claimed to be re-constructed from original components but I've not yet looked at it in person.

That makes 7 hero's (possibly 8 ) to my knowledge.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:52 am 
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All this is making my head spin!
I wish someone had the exact differences between the PRs. Some of them are hard to differentiate from each other.

Anyone have anything? :?:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:38 am 
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Nice Willie! Is that JL holding the Gamma rifle in the 'at auction' pic?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:28 am 
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Yeah, I dunno - this is what confuses me. I'm pretty sure this photo is from Comic-Con in the late 90s at the Icons display booth (note the calipers):

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BUT, the black vacuform shrouded one here is missing the grenade launcher front block piece - so are they the same?

http://alienscollection.com/profilespr.jpg

Also, the magazine base appears to be missing on the profiles auctioned one...

Anyone know?

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The Profiles rifle was definitely missing both the front block and mag base piece. If it was previously owned by Icons I guess that the pieces could have been removed from the rifle for recasting / measurement and were subsequently lost.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:46 pm 
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Willie,

I would put money on it. I worked at Icons. The PR and thoes hands look REALLY FAMILIAR. IIRC the PR that we had was not black shrouded.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:59 pm 
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Christan do you mean you think the Jim Latta PR you had at Icons didn't have the black vac-formed shroud on it? I have a copy of the Icons magazine that featured it and I think it's black in those photos.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:29 pm 
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Here are some of my photos...

You're welcome to add them to you page. I would suggest a new web page for the PR's on your site.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:42 pm 
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There was a hero PR at Alien War, I have photos of it from Hollywood Hardware. It could have been one of these auctioned PRs.


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