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A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED AGAIN!
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Author:  Noeland [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:41 am ]
Post subject:  A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED AGAIN!
edit - july 22nd - Got some photos in from Sarge today, so the study just keeps on expanding. Very cool.

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EDIT - july 20th - thanks to some input from Alex I have revised the photo study to be accurate to what the GEM pulse rifle looks like. I also added two more photos to it, with thanks to everyone who's let me use photos! Thanks guys.

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Over the years I have noticed that no two pulse rifle makers (unless one is recasting the other) seem to have the exact grips.

The grips seem to vary wildly in some cases. I've always thought this was interesting (maybe I'm alone in that interest) and have been mulling over doing this little grip study for a long time.

I've worked on Spats, which has a comfortable grip, the Wilco, which I think is very comfortable, and the Icons, which I don't much care for.

I prefer the wider, fuller grips, such as the Gem and the MIM have. Now, both of these models are reputed to be recastings of SD pulse rifle, but don't seem to have the same grips. At least not in the comparison pics I have for reference.

The Rcroberts ebay classic (as I call it) also has a wide grip. Everything on that resin monster is wide though :)

I really like the look of Matt's new grip too.

Anyway, hope you guys enjoy my little "chart" here culled from years of saving reference photos of many prop makers work.

[img]http://www.propaholics.wolfchasers.com/uploader/users/Noeland/grip%20study3.jpg[/img]
Edited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=noeland>Noeland[/url] at: 7/22/06 3:38 pm
Author:  fastreflexes [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - favorite?
First of all, I'm not that interested in Pulse Rifles, but that's not what I wanted to say... DAMN well-done guide!!! Props to you for taking the time... I'm impressed even though I'm not, as I said, that interested in them :-)
Author:  tonyandcherie [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:31 pm ]
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What got me thinking....was what is the little notch on the base of the grip for??

But nice reasearch there NJ......I love that rc pic you have there ;)
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Author:  tenmill999 [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:51 pm ]
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hmm any chance of a frontiers grip ...to compare
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Author:  Noeland [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - favorite?
Well, I don't have a marco posted, or a frontiers. Still working on those.:D

But hey, feel free to post your own pics and info, or email me the pics and I will revise the study and repost.

This is purely for fun and fans sake, not claiming any expertise here.;)
Author:  joeranger [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:22 pm ]
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My Matsuo Grip should arrive today, thanks for the preview...
Nice job. I wish there were side by side reference pics of other items as well.
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Author:  USCM Grunt [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - favorite?
Noeland, you really need a hobby. Youve got way too much time on your hands:P :lol:



Derek


btw I happen to like my Icons handle..its learned to fit snug throughout the years. Got a Spulse coming from a trade. That ones getting metal upgrades:twisted:

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Author:  nimmot [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:19 pm ]
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Excellent work, Noeland. I had been thinking of something similar but current projects take precedence. Color me very impressed with what you have done here. Well done, bud. :)
Tom
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Author:  Anubian Warrior [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:47 pm ]
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Quote:
Quote:What got me thinking....was what is the little notch on the base of the grip for??


if it serves like modern grips, it's to keep your hand in place, ie a griped handle for better grip as you fire


pain can be avoided by not caring
Author:  Treadwell [ Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - favorite?
I think he means the little nub at the bottom (not notch).

Retaining screw, yes?
Author:  Noeland [ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - favorite?
Quote:
Quote:Noeland, you really need a hobby.


The problem is that I have too many damn hobbies!!:lol:

And Tony do you mean the screw on the bottom of the grip, or the wilco grip with the thumb groove?

Tom - thank you (Derek please note how to be polite by Tom's example!) hahaha;)
Author:  USCM Grunt [ Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:56 am ]
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Aww...come on Noeland...you know where rowing the same boat together:lol:

btw, might have 2 new projects coming soon...might be cool to get together and discuss some things..



Derek
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Author:  Noeland [ Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:03 am ]
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Sounds good Derek. I'll give you a call tomorrow.

I know sarcasm doesn't translate sometimes, but I knew what you meant. :P

Njc------------
Author:  tonyandcherie [ Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:32 am ]
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Just the little notch on the bottom of the grip.
Its not touching any part of the hand, its just there.

The RC has it and a few others including the screen used ones.
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Author:  USCM Grunt [ Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:55 am ]
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I knew what you meant....you winked at me...remember??;)


Derek
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Author:  Noeland [ Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - favorite?
Quote:
Quote:Just the little notch on the bottom of the grip.


Tony, what you're seeing there is the head of the rear grip screw. It sticks out like this because for the film they used the thompson wood grips, and machined away the shape of the grips to look like spas grips, and after that the screw head stuck out.

Here are some pics for clarification. (and Derek, before you make a comment, this took me all of 10 minutes to compile and setup in illustrator! PUNK! :P

[img]http://www.propaholics.wolfchasers.com/uploader/users/Noeland/thompson%20grip1.jpg[/img]
Edited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=noeland>Noeland[/url] at: 7/17/06 11:30 pm
Author:  tonyandcherie [ Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - favorite?
Got ya, thanks NJ.

Another mystery put to bed :)
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Author:  Harry Harris [ Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED and expanded
Noeland the PR with the "wood grips unknown origin" is the one from the Technical Manual; allegedly assembled from mostly original PR parts by Bapty several years after Aliens.

It was a comission for the owner of 'Fiction & Fantasy Models' back in the 90s.

No idea why the grip was left unfinished though.

Harry


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Author:  barney five [ Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED and expanded
and my PR is not GEM, its also SD like the one above.

-joerg
Author:  Noeland [ Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED and expanded
Joerg,
Thank you for pointing that out, I will revise and repost, I mistakenly used the wrong photo there! Sincerest apologies, thank you for not flaming me!

Harry,
Thank you for that info. I had no idea! I thought it was just a fan made PR.

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Author:  dropshipbob [ Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED and expanded
Nice work Noeland, it's always interesting to see comparisons of the take on different parts by different makers.
"How lucky are the few who know where they belong."
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Author:  SSgt Burton [ Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED and expanded
Noeland- I sent you an email with some pics. Hope it helps. :)

Great work on this report! :D
Kevin

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Author:  Noeland [ Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED and expanded
Thank you, and thank you for the pics you sent over. Had a rough couple of days. My dog is sick, and we may have to put her down.

This really breaks my heart because she's so smart and so strong, but she has siezures, and yesterday she had 9 of them, 3 of them after we left her for observation at the vets office. The meds don't seem to be helping her.

We're bringing her home today in the hopes they will stop, but if they don't, well, we'll have to let her go.

But, in any case, I want her to stop having siezures because they knock the crap out of her. She has the full on grand maul thrash around violent type.

So, it was nice to get back on the computer and concentrate on this for a little while :)
Author:  treeboar [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Study in Pulse Rifle Grips - REVISED and expanded
Thought this was quite a handy reference for anyone buying an unknown origin PR.

I stopped this falling off the board. Can it be placed in the Archives?
Author:  Harry Harris [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:01 am ]
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Quote:
Quote:I stopped this falling off the board. Can it be placed in the Archives?
Done! :)

Harry
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