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 Post subject: Any VW gurus Here? 65 starting problem...
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:45 pm 
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I know this is so far off topic but I've being driven insane by this- so I'm trying every where. Heh..
I have a 1965 Beetle with a 12 volt conversion. The conversion was done year and years ago. Recently I went to turn her over and got nothing- it wouldn't even try to turn and there was no clicking at all. A couple of tries and she started right up. A few days later the same thing happened- only she never started. The battery seems fine- I have good strong lights and the oil and gen lights come on the dash. I've replaced the starter, but have not been able to swap out the bushing- I've tried, but cannot get the old one out. I've also replaced the ignition switch. Neither of those things helped. It seems no power is getting to the starter at all. She was stolen this summer and I installed a hidden switch that goes from the ignition switch ground to the ground on the fuse box. I disconnected that switch and put the ground back directly to the switch- nothing. I've also recently replaced the light switch dimmer. I'm completely stumped. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:11 pm 
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Is there a way you can use a test light and check for current? I would begin at the ignition switch and then jump to the starter itself. Just follow up with some sort of visual indicator to make sure you are getting current before you replace any more parts. It may only be a simple short or crimped wire.

Electrical stuff is not my area of expertise but I used to own a '65 VW myself and really miss that car. It was a lot of fun. :D

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i miss my bug! :(
sounds alot like the starter motor solenoid starting to sieze up to me. did you replace the WHOLE starter, or just open it up and replace the insides?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:41 pm 
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Both the starter and solenoid were replaced. I have not tried to rebuild one

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jeeez... i spend all day fixing cars for a living, then come home to this! :P



ok, first of all, check your interior light is working. the older beetle fuseboxes were pretty wierd, and alot of things earth out through that light.

next check your feeds at the starter motor. there should be 1 really thick wire, thats your perminant live feed straight from the battery so you should have battery voltage on that.
the other wire on the starter is your feed from the ignition switch. get someone to turn the key while you probe that wire. when the key is turned you should have battery voltage. if you have power there when the key is turned, but the starter doesnt turn, then the system is ok, but there is a fault with the starter. try removing it and cleaning up where it bolts on (it earths itself through the bolts)

if you got no power there, then its a case of fault tracing the rest of the system, which i can talk you through after you checked them first bits.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:02 pm 
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Thanks. Everyone has been telling me to get a multimeter on it, but no one gave me specifics. Now I just have to get one of my deadbeat friends to help. Heh....

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:09 am 
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Is this the little guy in question?

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My '65 looked a little different but yours captures the era. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:05 pm 
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That's my Pearl. Thanks!

The roof rack got stolen though- so I need to get another.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:56 am 
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Ha! Success! She is ALIVE!!!
It was the starter relay. I ended up using a part form a 1979 Ford LTD. Heh...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:34 pm 
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Nice bug matey; I have a '72 1200 rusting down the lane :(

Here's how she used to look:

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I'll be starting work on her again next year to bring her back to her former glory I hope :D

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