With all the big hoppla on Vista, I came upon this video on how to install Vista on your machine. Enjoy!
Vista Install

Mike
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There is nothing more impressive than a bloody big Alien
wiggling on the end of a sharp stick!

That was brilliant!

I wonder just how long I can go without being forced by circumstances to upgrade to this awful OS?

Have you seen this commercial?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79F-qdCCDU

Yeah. It's that bad.

I'm actually running Vista (needed a new computer anyway so bought a machine on "New OS Sale"). It's really not that bad. Yeah it does give pop-ups when you are installing software, but most people don't do that a lot. Overall I see why people say you don't have to upgrade, but it won't hurt (just make sure you have Vista drivers for your hardware. I have a buddy who tried to use an XP version of his Nvidia driver and had the Blue Screen problems the first video mentioned. Downloaded the Vista driver and the problem went away.)

Jeez. You never, never, ever upgrade to a new OS before the first Service pack fixes the major bugs.

It's not like your being forced onto Vista... Yet.
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-I was *promised* flying cars.....

absolutly. I keep away from new OS' usually until at least SP2.

Vista is going to cause far too many problems for me so I'm keeping away from it for as long as possible.

I'm the same, until the patches are out I let other people report the problems.

I just bought this machine back in April........I know it was out of date before it left the warehouse but I'm worried Vista is now the only way forward for Microsoft. Everyone who is not wanting to upgrade after less than a year is screwed
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Here's the flipside:

Why Macs Suck

Kevin

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"I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself, it wants to hide inside an imitation. If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies, nobody left to kill it. And then it's won."

Alright, time for me to rant.

All the anti-Mac rants I hear seem to be based on experiences using the 10-year old models in school libraries... So many times people have said to me 'But Macs suck!', to which I ask 'Have you ever actually used one?' the answer is inevitably 'well...the ones we had at my school were slow'. That's akin to judging a make of car solely on the bottom-of-the-barrel rental your insurance provides.

I've had my current machine since October, and it hasn't crashed once. The machine it replaced was over 8 years old, and it still ran the latest version of OS X (something PC's cannot boast with Vista...).

All this trouble installing Vista reminds me of when I upgraded from OS 9 to OS X. Oh wait, no, it doesn't. I almost forgot, I put in the disc, clicked 'install', and it worked. Therein lies the distinct difference to me between the user experience between Windows and Macintosh.

Whenever I must use Windows I can only liken the experience to 'walking through digital mud'. It seems like it takes more steps, more waiting, and more effort to accomplish the same tasks, even things as simple as navigating the OS and moving around files.

But that's just my 2 cents. I won't bash Windows, I've used it for years...I just don't prefer it for the reasons I've mentioned.
Exo2

I just thought it was funny and wanted to share it with everyone so we could all have a good laugh.

I go cry now.


Kevin

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"I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself, it wants to hide inside an imitation. If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies, nobody left to kill it. And then it's won."

I have used a Mac as my main PC for about 6 months now. It has never crashed and Windows does feel really clunky/unreliable in comparison (even when ran in a window in Parallels! ). But ... There is an element of truth in some points in that video!

Mac OS X isn't perfect, but it is much more perfect than Windows XP. Windows Vista? I'll reserve judgement, but the early signs aren't promising.

Actually Exo, any comments about Macs from me would be based on the PowerMac G5 and Intel based Mac Mini we have in my lab.

One of the big things people forget is that Macs are proprietary hardware. The reason that the computers in cars are stable is because car designers don't have to worry about supporting 200 different engines, fifty windshields, 100 body styles, etc. Macs are the same way. In my lab I have over 100 PCs and 2 Macs, because of how many different versions of PCs you can have.

And as far as feeling like your moving through mud, I have the same feeling when I'm on a Mac.

Proprietary hardware? If you are in a very specialized field and using serial equipment, I suppose that could be a concern.

As for hardware, I just shop for PC equipment. I'm using a PC graphics card with a flashed ROM, Microsoft mouse, off-brand SATA card, a Lexmark from 2000, when parallel ports were still standard.

It's never really been a concern for me, because in my experience the generic drivers that are bundled with the OS have just made things...work.

As for more steps, there are a few things I need to do often that I have yet to find a way to streamline on Windows.

Finding a file. On Mac OS, you press command-F and the Find File dialog appears, awaiting input. On Windows you must open the Start menu, select Search, wait for the dialog with that stupid dog, then select the category you want, then enter your text.

Deleting a file. If I wish to delete something I press commande-delete, sending it to the trash, then command-shift-delete, emptying the trash.

Just two examples, but this is the sort of thing I'm talking about. Hardware aside, it just seems to me that Windows was designed to be less responsive overall to the user.

We can argue this all day, however, and we won't change anyone's opinion. Trust me, I've been doing it since 1993 when I got my first Mac and realized the level of product patriotism that exists between Mac and PC users. Just like Ford vs Chevy.
Exo2

Or press the windows key+F
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I'll admit I honestly didn't know that short cut, and I had asked several people if one existed.

It still doesn't bring up a search dialog ready to go, though. Still have to wait for it to pop up and draw that dog, then select the category you want.
Exo2

Well... I don't like that dog either.

Nor do I like that little wizard bastard.

In fact they could do away with all the animated characters (I think there is a paperclip among others).

Now if it was a little animated Spring Break Girls Gone Wild character, I wouldn't be so salty.

Kevin

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"I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself, it wants to hide inside an imitation. If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies, nobody left to kill it. And then it's won."

Edited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=ssgtburton>SSgt Burton[/url]  at: 2/11/07 2:44 pm

Ah, you see this is why after every fresh install of Windows "Fischer Price Eddition" (XP) the first thing i do is go about changing settings and tweaking the registry to remove all that horrible crap and get Windows working the way I like.

I really ought to create 1 simple registry patch to perform all the changes. I keep forgetting to do it though.
Edited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=wdimagineer2b>WDImagineer2b[/url] at: 2/11/07 6:38 pm

Actually, in Vista they did get rid of the dog (just tried it to make sure). As far as proprietary hardware, Mac really does have proprietary hardware when you look at the guts of the computer. My guess is that your PC Video card is an ATI, since neither Intel nor Nvidia list Mac drivers on their website (My guess is based on the fact Intel, Nvidia, and ATI are the top three video GPU manufacturers in the world in that order). Don't know how good Lexmark is on Mac support, but both the USB Keyboard and the SATA drive are based on generic standards. To actually discuss compatibility matrixes of those two technologies you have to discuss the SATA controller and the USB Host controller both of which are on the motherboard, generally part of the chipset, and therefore created by Apple or on special contract from Apple.

To give you an example. According to www.apple.com/macosx/upgr...ments.html there are 18 basic configurations MacOSX will run on (I count a configuration as the group Apple lists them on their webpage). The PC hardware vendor New Egg ( www.newegg.com ) has 19 motherboard chipsets just for the most recent AMD processor socket. In addition they have 8 more processor sockets (each of which should have multiple chipsets (I didn't verify this)) between AMD and Intel processors, and that doesn't include all motherboards chipsets that have a built on processor.

Not trying to argue with you, just pointing out a very common fallacy about Mac OS vs Windows OS. Part of my job is dealing with all the various PC's out there and how our product interacts with them, so I am extremely aware of the stability problems caused by the amount of hardware you can buy. I have had to tell someone "I know the customer just bought half a million dollars worth of our equipment and is about to return it, if you can't get me the computer they are using, I can't get the problem fixed."

BTW, here is a webpage with a lot of Windows HotKeys listed: www.helpwithpcs.com/tipsa...ows_xp.htm
Edited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=wookieegunner>Wookiee Gunner[/url] at: 2/11/07 6:44 pm