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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:25 pm 
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ACK!! My bad! :wink:

The jacket certainly will fit the bill Rex! And Tom does have a point that one of the themes of the future war is that they would be scavengers. Surely it's not like they have a central supply churning out standardized uniforms. :wink: 8)

Well going to my Parents house was a bust; I couldn't find the jacket anywhere. It's been more than 19 years since I last saw/wore it so it's most likely been donated or trashed (I barely remember it had this huge hole in it that was repaired- so they may have thought it was trash).

Anyway- on the way home I stopped in my favourite surplus store and picked up a Canadian (summer weather) flight jacket:

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The blue doesn't quite look as bright and shiny in reality. Couple of things I have to do is remove the epaulettes and the right upper arm pocket. It's still pretty blue- but when I'm done with it, it will have a pretty hefty spraying of greyish colours blended with some black, white-ish ash, and earth tones. You won't recognize it as the same coat. :wink:

The store did have a couple of Alpha Industries flight jackets, however they were not in my size (which isn't a big issue), and they were hot as hell just trying them on in the store! :shock: :oops: <-- (overheated emoticon :wink: )

So a bonus with the Canadian one is that it is much lighter and won't be as bad in the Atlanta heat. :D

Another thing I'll probably do is use the rest of the padding I bought. To me the colour/texture is still good (and I'm going to weather it heavily anyway)-- however I plan on reproducing the correct pattern myself:

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So what I'm going to do is sew lines using the existing pattern as a guide, then remove the extra "cross" lines with a seam ripper as indicated by the arrows. All that should be left is the correct zig-zag pattern. :D

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Party on Russ!

Excellent pruning dude! Some of those comments were most heinous!

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You have been a most excellent moderator. :lol:


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You have been a most excellent moderator. :lol:


*sighs* ...like when a moire spins....

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....put them in Iron Maiden...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:54 am 
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*sighs* ...like when a moire spins....




ALRIGHT ENOUGH!!!


KEEP THE GODDAMN THREAD ON TOPIC OR I'LL HAVE RUSS DELETE THE WHOLE THING!!!

WHICH I DON'T WANT TO DO!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:23 am 
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Looking at the first pics you posted Kev - WAY too clean.

But after seeing the Halloween pics all dirtied up....it truly does look fantastic.
How did you dirty your face up ike that?
Just standard dirt or a shoe polish method?
(obviously the earlier pics were meant to be clean)

The longshot sized down goes perfectly and for $30......cannot be beat.
Truly a costume of a scavanger.....made from almost scavanged parts.

Please post more pics if or when you can :)

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Excellent job of pruning Russ!! :D Well done bro!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:54 am 
Awesome looking costume! I think you nailed the feel of the T2 Future War costumes very well.

I currently own the screen used costume from T1, belonging to the female soldier who's with Reese. She's the one who get zapped by the pink laser beam. I've got her jacket, undershirt, and 4 pieces of leg armor. Anyhow, everytime I look at it, I can't get over how detailed it is! Even the undershirt, which was not seen, has a cool, futuristic design on it.

In any case, keep up the good work...nice to see someone tackle a Future War soldier finally! :)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:09 am 
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Cindaria- do you have or can you take some pics of those pieces for me? It would help immensely!

Tony- the dirt is an old camo face paint compact I've had lying around for literally decades. Fortunately the stuff is high quality and never dried up after all these years! :D

I used black and grey with a bit of brown thrown in (kinda hard to see in the pic).

Here's one I found on the web from the club I went to:

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It's funny... No matter what weapon I'm holding... No matter how inert, or incapable of doing any harm whatsoever...

I always keep my finger off the trigger. :lol:

Well I just finished taking the pocket off the right arm of the jacket. One part down... several to go! :wink: :D

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:15 am 
I have a pic of the costume on the wall, if you want it. I prefer not to do detail shots of my screen used pieces, for various reasons. Let me know your email addy, and I'll send you the one I have though, to give you an idea. :)

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Sorry, Kevin. That was supposed to have been funny. :lol:

In general, I am amazed on the lack of available reference material on this uniform. Not sure how accurate it is but the Hot Toys Reese looks like a pretty good base for additional reference.

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From the http://www.actionfigure2002.com site. (accessed 02.11.07)

Brian/cnidaria, I've also sent you a request for pics. It's great to see you here, man. :D

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:20 pm 
Tom-

Yeah, nice to see you too! I sent ya an email. ;)

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Looks like he has the holster used in Aliens and the same pistol :D


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Man, I have been looking for that figure for sooooooo long! :?

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If that's the holster the figure has, I can tell you with 100% certainty that's not film accurate.

The one Reese had was an old fashioned leather holster...looked to be WWII era. No idea what the pistol was since he never used it on screen.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:16 am 
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Indeed it's definitely not a USCM holster!

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As you can see it's a WWII era looking holster as DSB said. I might go ahead and wear my USCM holster anyway. :wink:

The modern nylon web-belt on the Hot Toys Reese is incorrect as well from what I can see; the screenused belt appears to be a Vietnam era web-belt with a metal T clasp.

After having seen decent pics of the screenused leg guards (thanks Cindaria!) I can say with confidence that it truly is custom leather work. The leather is in multiple layers (about five from what I could see) giving it it's thickness and stiffness that is seen on-screen! :D

So that's the direction I'm going in! I'm going to re-create them myself out of vinyl like I had originally planned. Originally I thought they were simply two layers (like the Hot Toys Reese)- this didn't work as two layers was much too thin and flimsy. Five layers should work, and I can't wait to start working on them!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Cindaria- on the screenused jacket the stretchy elastic collar normally found on a MA-1 flight jacket appears to have been replaced with a belt of some kind that has two D-rings. Is this a strip of leather or a cloth belt?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:37 am 
Kevin-

It's a strip of leather, not cloth.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:12 am 
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Ok I have been working on this project bit by bit.

I ended up taking the blue Canadian flight jacket back and exchanged it for a US CVC (tank crew) jacket:

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So now I've got a jacket that is much more screen accurate... but is the wrong colour.

What to do- what to do... :roll:

So I decide to paint the fabric grey with acrylic fabric paints. I get about halfway done, and realize the fabric has become stiff as a board. DOH! :oops:

So after serveral washings (and my wife freaking about paint particles in our new front load washer :roll: ) I got most of the paint out.

Back to square one.

Next I was on the fence about whether to use dye (such as Rit Dye), or try this new fabric "spraypaint" I saw at Micheals. I figure it would be too laboursome to do the Rit Dye, so I grabbed the spraypaint. They didn't have grey so I bought blue (thinking this might work).

Nope.

The spraypaint basically allowed the original colour to bleed through- so the end result was a motteled blue/green. :roll: :cry:

Back to the drawing board again.

I figure the Rit Dye would have the same effect- it would be too translucent to stop the green from showing through. So I went back to the fabric paints. :roll:

And once again the jacket feels like it is made of cardboard. :lol: :cry:

So here it is so far: :wink:

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Colour looks great (it's not so light in real life- the flash washes it out a bit). Texture... not so good. You can see the remains of the spraypaint dye on the left side. Boo! :evil:

Now onto the padding-

I went to a U-Haul store today and found some of those moving blankets. After close inspection I understood what Tarim-Rex was taking about when he said they were not very durable. The material is more of a papery kind of fabric rather than a natural material. I could see it falling apart once you cut it. It would lose it's structural integrity. It was light blue and not grey anyway so I didn't bother getting it. :wink:

So I decided to go with my original plan of re-stitching the material I already had. I worked a little bit on one of the elbow patches today:

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I went with black thread to make the stiches much more prominent. I tried a grey thread at first and it just didn't show the pattern clearly enough.

I also got myself an airsoft gun to become the base for my Reese rifle replica:

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Now the screenused rifle is a Valmet M82 (a Finnish bullpup rifle), but the chances of me getting a Valmet replica are zero. I figured this is as close as I'll get (especially with our strict gun/replica laws :( ).

And so the project goes on! :D

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:16 am 
Kev....want me to help with the scope for the Beretta rifle?

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Kev....use an airbrush to paint the jacket.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:50 am 
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Steve- yes on the scope...

And unfortunately I don't own an airbrush (I'm such a caveman :lol: ).

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Gooood progress there bro! Coming along nicely!

May have to ask you to do up some padding for me bro. :roll: 8)

Just scored a Hot Toys Reese, always wanted him. (paid through the nose too...) They have several loose parts on the bay, check this auction out (hope this doesn't violate da rulz, b'cuz it ain't 1/1 stuff, purely for reference purposes)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hot-Toys-KYLE-REESE ... dZViewItem

It has a pic of the back of the jacket, showing all the detail of the padding on the back of the jacket.

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So what is the airsoft you went with called? Looks the part to me!

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