I know you guys here would know about this..
what are your thoughts on this , and is it worth the asking price,, before I bid on this?
I need one for the fan film ill be working on..ill do the FX for the rifle myself.


thanks in advance

-Pete

*edit - Live auction rule. Sorry. *
-Rook

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Hi Pete,

We have a rule about listing auctions that are still running so you might want to remove the link you posted.

That being said, it looks like a recast of an Icons stunt PR. The picture is a bit poor to get all the details, but it looks like it will need a lot of sanding to get it up to snuff. It is most likely soild resin as well, so adding internal electronics might be difficult. If you can, ask the seller for some close up shots to give you some idea how much work it will need.

If I were to bid on it, I wouldn't bid much more than $100US, maybe $120 tops. (Don't worry, I don't plan on bidding on it ).

However I would be more concerned about how it will get through customs.
Kevin
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"Marines I see as two breeds, Rottweilers or Dobermans, because Marines come in two varieties, big and mean, or skinny and mean. They've got really short hair and they always go for the throat."

I was going to say the same thing.

Icons stunt rifle recast. Since it's in white/smurf blue resin, I don't see much of an issue with getting it into Canada but I'm not up on the rules and regs regarding "look alike" nonguns.

I know strait up "replicas" are a prohibited item, but I'm not certain if this would qualify.

One thing to do if you decide to pursue this, would be to have the seller put "Solid plastic resin model kit" on the box description.

And do NOT use the word GUN anywhere on the item/box.

Rook


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The PR does not resemble an existing weapon/firearm so it might be exempt from the replica weapon category.

This link should help:

Customs Canada: Importing and exporting firearms and other weapons and devices

The info is as up to date as I can find. Scroll down to the section on Replica Firearms (near the bottom of the page).

Unfortunately it still doesn't explain why airsoft is prohibited, but I can go into Canadian Tire and purchase a Co2 Walther P99 or S&W 4506.
Kevin
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"Marines I see as two breeds, Rottweilers or Dobermans, because Marines come in two varieties, big and mean, or skinny and mean. They've got really short hair and they always go for the throat."

Because they are metal BB firing guns that shoot at (I believe) over 600-650fps.

There was a weak ruling a year or two ago that stated AS guns were legal if they fired over 600fps.

I know Asia Pac was selling "legal" guns that fired about 600fps.

But Then "I" wouldn't want to be receiving BBs from that thing. Major bleeding would occur.

Rook

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Not to labor the issue too much but...

If a pellet gun fired a projectile over 500 fps it is considered a firearm in Canada, and is subject to all licenses, transportation requirements, etc, of the Firearms Act. It is treated like a real gun.

However if it fires less than 500 fps it is still considered a firearm, but does not require a license, etc. The only requirement is that you must be at least 18 years of age to purchase.

Airsoft guns are considered replicas because they are designed to exactly resemble (or with near precision) an existing firearm. Combined with the fact that the slow fps and plastic projectile can do no serious injury (with the exception of your eyes/teeth), they are classified as replica firearms and are prohibited to importation.

I'm am just dumbfounded as to how the laws of this country work!:evil:

Replica guns are illegal because some doofus can rob a bank with a totally inert gun, and airsoft guns are considered replicas because they can't do any serious damage and are relatively harmless...

But it is perfectly legal to buy a Crossman air rifle that fires a .177 metal pellet at 495 fps and can potentially kill you!

Dumbfounded and really P.O.ed!!:evil:

Getting back to the topic- the PR should be fine as it does not resemble an existing firearm, however custom agents are known for not following the letter of the law either.
Kevin
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"Marines I see as two breeds, Rottweilers or Dobermans, because Marines come in two varieties, big and mean, or skinny and mean. They've got really short hair and they always go for the throat."

No no. This was a resin kit with no moving parts I believe. The AS PR will go for a lot more.
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I'm guessing that this thing has a TM M1a1 inside it.

That being the case, it'll be firing a 0.2g BB at about 280fps as standard.

Usually, in law, it's not the outright speed of the projectile that's important but it's the "power" that is.

In the UK, for example, an airsoft gun is only classed as a "toy" while it shoots at under 1J energy (thats 327fps with 0.2g BB). More than 1J and it's classed as an airgun and illegal for skirmishing.