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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:03 pm 
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What would be a good stand in for Hick's 870 shotgun? I want it to be durable and functional. For use in airsoft games and prop wise. I was thinking of using the CYMA 870 Tri shot (no wood fore end) or the sawed off A&K 870 FULL METAL with real wood (wrong pistol grip). Any thoughts?


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:41 pm 
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Hicks actually had a modified Ithaca 37 shotgun.

Can't vouch for its durability, but I believe this is the only airsoft version out there.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/a ... Police.htm

Technically you would want the "featherlight" full size hunting version then cut it down and add an MP40 grip, but if you are looking for a reasonably close stand-in, the stakeout is close enough.

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Or you could use an 870, as you say... You were certainly taken in by it, plus it's an iconic weapon.


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:15 pm 
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Hicks actually had a modified Ithaca 37 shotgun.

Can't vouch for its durability, but I believe this is the only airsoft version out there.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/a ... Police.htm

Technically you would want the "featherlight" full size hunting version then cut it down and add an MP40 grip, but if you are looking for a reasonably close stand-in, the stakeout is close enough.


Ooh nice I like it! And reasonable price too


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Or you could use an 870, as you say... You were certainly taken in by it, plus it's an iconic weapon.


The 870 was the only closest thing I could find besides the one suggested above.


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bigbisont wrote:
Hicks actually had a modified Ithaca 37 shotgun.

Can't vouch for its durability, but I believe this is the only airsoft version out there.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/a ... Police.htm

Technically you would want the "featherlight" full size hunting version then cut it down and add an MP40 grip, but if you are looking for a reasonably close stand-in, the stakeout is close enough.



I just bought it! Thanks a lot Marine!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:49 pm 
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My shotgun came yesterday (Saturday)!


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My shotgun came yesterday (Saturday)!


Once you run it through the paces, I'd love to hear a review.

I opted to build an inert one as a display piece since I don't actually do airsoft, but am still very curious about this one.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:14 pm 
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bigbisont wrote:
cecarroll0519 wrote:
My shotgun came yesterday (Saturday)!


Once you run it through the paces, I'd love to hear a review.

I opted to build an inert one as a display piece since I don't actually do airsoft, but am still very curious about this one.


I was thinking of doing that very thing. Next is an idea for a scabbard. but im thinking of a run of the mill tactical MOLLE scabbard and possibly dying it brown...I aim to use the shotgun and anything else in games. so though a screen accurate leather scabbard would be cool...not very tactical. thanks for the Interest.


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I have two of the KTW shotguns. One is set up in "Hicks" configuration and signed by Michael Biehn. The other is mounted in my ST Morita.

As a bonus, the Morita also came with a resin M37 that I now have left over after installing the Airsoft version.

The KTW as an Airsoft gun leaves a few things to be desired but it's a great prop. I did some weathering on mine and it looks great. Perfect for "close encounters."

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:57 pm 
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I have two of the KTW shotguns. One is set up in "Hicks" configuration and signed by Michael Biehn. The other is mounted in my ST Morita.

As a bonus, the Morita also came with a resin M37 that I now have left over after installing the Airsoft version.

The KTW as an Airsoft gun leaves a few things to be desired but it's a great prop. I did some weathering on mine and it looks great. Perfect for "close encounters."



I know right?. I plan on using mine till it breaks and then itll be a prop. I also wish to have "Hicks" sign mine too!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:00 pm 
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I know right?. I plan on using mine till it breaks and then itll be a prop. I also wish to have "Hicks" sign mine too!


It was a pretty awesome fanboy moment for me. He said he had signed a lot of pulse rifles and armor, but never a shotgun before mine.


Some additional notes on the KTW vs. the actual prop:

This is the best pic of the Hicks gun I have seen.

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1. Engraving on the reciever indicates the base gun for this was a "Featherlite". The KTW is based on the "Stakeout."
The engraving was probably something like this (taken from the Ithaca website):

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The KTW does sell a "Featherlight" version of the gun but it does not have the engraving. It's a plastic reciever so if you feel brave enough you could have the engraving added.

2. The screen-used pistol grip was a modified grip from a German Mp40 submachinegun. You can find Airsoft spring Mp40s online to get this part. The Mp40 grip appears to be mated to a portion of the original wood stock.

For the film, all of these details are lost because the pistol grip is wrapped with tape.

3. The Hicks gun has a notched rear sight and blade front sight. These are missing from the KTW.

4. The forend of the Hicks gun is not ribbed like the KTW, but has a diamond checkering pattern.


In a pinch, for the budget minded Marine who doesn't care about being screen accurate, there are a lot of pump-action Airsoft shotguns out there. Borrowing a phrase from a fellow prop-building friend: "This isn't Hicks' shotgun. It's MINE."

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:46 pm 
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If you plan to modify yours, the sites can be scratch built fairly easily. This thread shows how I did mine and I am pretty happy with the results. There is also info about the accurate forend (in case you wanted to hunt one down and swap it out, although I have no idea how easy the real parts would fit on the airsoft).
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15367&hilit=hicks+scratch+real

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:41 pm 
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Bigbisont, that's a great prop you built! Thanks for sharing.

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Got the KTW "Stakeout" and the Sawed-Off versions. They look okay, but have kind of a light build, I think they're mostly plastic.

Decent for a last-resort Airsoft gun though. I'm kind of annoyed I missed out on the Riot Slug model when it was out - thought of doing a Reese costume.


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