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 Post subject: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/2019
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:21 pm 
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at this point we are seriously thinking about canceling our participation in the parade.
The turnout is embarrassing, and we have the same issue with the table.
If we do not see a marked increase in participation in both lists we will have no choice but to cancel both for 2019

Maybe in 2020 we can get our shit back together

we will wait until the end of the week before making the choice

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:11 pm 
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moving forward, I would like to put the fun back into the parade.
I for one miss the running around and interacting with the crowd
Chasing the Xenos or at least trying to shoo them away and "save" the kids
it was more movement but made the parade seem shorter

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:51 pm 
'Nuff said.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:48 pm 
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Mantroon wrote:
If you mean specifically this year, no one has.

If you want specific examples: look at the backlash Stacy Bither got with her Hello Kitty armour, Roman and his unicorn plushie, and Dom berating the guy from Atlanta Cosplay Group for his gold pulse rifle (which was a gift from his group for putting together the idea of doing Aliens costumes). On the flip side, there was hardly any fallout at Aaron Horrocks wearing a real uniform as part of the CG.

EDIT: Also there was the incident, not directly related to the parade, but where Dom decided to pass judgement on someone's marine cotume, who turned out to be photographer Bryan Humphrey, which nearly cost the group the free photoshoot he offered us that year, and Bryan and his wife (who has a xeno costume, would have been nice to have had another of those) were going to join the AL, however, after that, decided not to.

If you want explicit examples of people being turned away, is in someone saying to them "You can't be in the parade" there isn't one. But, yes, people have been made to feel unwelcome, it's certainly implied, however never said directly.



I was actually explicitly told that I could not participate in the parade, table, troop, etc if I was going to wear my HK armor, so honestly I stopped participating period because I felt wholly unwelcome. I maintained my acct and keep up with friends I made, but that is it. That was of course not this year but the after the 1 year I did participate in the parade.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:54 pm 
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Dom and he told me that he had many of the old guard backing him. It's bullying tactics all the way around but I won't stay where I'm not welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:03 pm 
'Nuff said.
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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:21 pm 
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I feel to see how something I was told in person would be on a thread in the AL. Also, I did tell people and nothing was done because Dom threatened and cajoled. I know who did and did not support me, hence why I still talk with them and haven't tanked my account here.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:32 pm 
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wasuremono wrote:
I feel to see how something I was told in person would be on a thread in the AL. Also, I did tell people and nothing was done because Dom threatened and cajoled. I know who did and did not support me, hence why I still talk with them and haven't tanked my account here.
I am sorry that happened to you Stacey, we are trying to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future. You are still welcomed and encouraged to participate with the Aliens Legacy this year if you so choose.

As far as the parade and the table are concerned, the lack of participation is embarrassing. I understand the heat has gotten to some members in the past and therefore they do not want to march again. That is perfectly acceptable. It would be nice though if they could help out at the table. All i ask is an hour of your busy weekend.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:52 pm 
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I REALLY hate to say it Mike, but it might be an idea to knock the table on the head this year, and take the time to figure out something cool for the table for next year.

I heard rumors there was some sort of backdrop planned but not seen it yet.

I think if everyone puts their heads together, we could come up with something really good.

i have the backdrop here and ready to head down to georgia. Sending the updated table banners out tomorrow.

but I have no issue with cancelling the table either if volunteers don't want to do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:07 am 
'Nuff said.
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I have to say the reason I’m not doing the parade is because it’s been so hot the last few times I did the parade. I will try next year but I want a break. But I’m definitely going to help with the table, I might change my time when the schedule comes out though.

With the Stacy thing. I am so sorry Stacy, that’s not ok. I’ve had some similar experiences. Since I dress as Ripley and not a “marine” I was told that “it’s doesn't matter what I do cause I’m not a marine.” I just felt like “what am I doing here then?” I do understand I have to work up the ranks so to say, but I felt unwanted. And if I am unwanted then I can do something else.

That’s my two cents.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:14 am 
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Mantroon wrote:
So back on topic...

More costumes from other installments of the franchise.

As for the table. I know we thought about flyers that had a pattern on them that if you cut them out and folded them up would make a marine or xeno toy.

Maybe activity books like the UKCM did at the Leicester show one year.

Badge ribbons like Emma makes each year.

Photo booth?

i like badge ribbons. Would it be possible to make some for the photoshoot and hand out to people who attended?

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:18 am 
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The past cannot be changed. Rehashing the past serves to illustrate WHY there's little to no participation anymore.

If someone has a problem with another member, there are now procedures in place to discuss the situation and it will be dealt with.

Finger Pointing in the Forum serves only to inflame tension.

Kitty, I am sorry for your experience. I cannot change that. Going forward, I hope to have all enjoy the parade and have it organzised as well as fun interaction with the crowd.

This thread is to find ways to improve the situation with the Parade and the Table.

Suggest Improvements!! Ways to HELP!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:44 am 
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I'm planning to bring my screen-used Alien 3 costume along again - If someone can provide a mannequin, I'm happy for it to be part of the table display when I'm not wearing it.
( Parade-wise, I'll be with the Borderlands guys again, though. )

( Also, it seems that in 2012 I posted saying that Stacy's Hello Kitty armour "detracted from the uniform look of the group" - I'm actually really embarrassed to see that I felt that way at the time, and would like to offer sincere apologies to Stacy. I don't even remember saying so and I hate that I did. I'm sorry. )

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:57 pm 
'Nuff said.
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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:06 pm 
'Nuff said.
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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:22 pm 
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look, this thread is an example of why we can't have nice things. This in fighting has to stop. for the good of the group.

Scapey, what size mannequin would you need? and would you feel comfortable with a screen used prop being out and about?

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
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look, this thread is an example of why we can't have nice things. This in fighting has to stop. for the good of the group.




Exactly! Couldn't agree more. THIS is why participation is down. I know of people who've left the group because of this.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragoncon 2019 Parade *** IMPORTANT UPDATE**** 7/30/20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:02 pm 
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Scapey, what size mannequin would you need? and would you feel comfortable with a screen used prop being out and about?


Well, I'm a 38" waist and XL T-shirt size, and the costume fits me perfectly; so if it will help, I'm happy to bring it down.
And yeah, I trust y'all to take care of it! I hope to be able to do a table slot this year, but I have a lot on my plate so not sure yet when.

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