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| Author: | zuzus [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Anyone made or designed a bullpup pulsey before? I was thinking, obviously bullpups are still used in the Aliens universe (L85's in the armoury) so i decided to have a go at designing one. This sort of thing is probably beyond what i could make IRL but i think with some tweeks it could look pretty cool. All of you firearms experts will have to forgive me if i've made any mistakes but here it is.  Basically an SA80 with a shroud. 
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| Author: | Winch [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
An interesting concept weapon!  Sadly since it's assembled from photographic elements all taken at slightly different angles and scales this contributes to the "Frankensteins Monster" appearance.  You can build the something similar with all parts at the same scale and perspective at http://pimpmygun.doctornoob.com with the exception of the Pulse Rifle Shroud unless he's updated it since I last used it! |
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| Author: | zuzus [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Yeah i thought that when i was making it. It is a bit twisted  It's okay. It was just to give an outline of what i'm thinking about, my main reason for bringing up the subject was to see if anyone else had thought about it before and to see other peoples ideas.
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| Author: | Sidewinder [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
You'd need long arms to use it with a stock like that! SAS |
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| Author: | zuzus [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
| yeah you're right! i should have just left the regular pulse rifle stock on it.
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| Author: | SGM Baldwin [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Don't even really need a stock, just a butt plate... You know of course the SA-80 is a Colonial Marine weapon, right? 
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| Author: | assimilate [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
well the sa80a1 is lol the sa80a2 is my weapon 
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| Author: | DW [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
I don't see why, except for the love of a pulsey, they would be using two standard issue bullpups - Which is a shame, I do love the pulse rifles. |
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| Author: | Russ Krook III [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
It's called Set Dressing kids! They have M16's on the wall too, but you can't tell me they'll still be using M16A2's in another 200 years.  Russ |
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| Author: | Ttaskmaster [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Russ Krook III wrote: but you can't tell me they'll still be using M16A2's in another 200 years. The SMLE was considered outdated by the early 1900s, yet it saw us through two wars and is still a favoured sniper rifle today.... Ya never know!! |
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| Author: | assimilate [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
hey if it aint broke why fix it? |
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| Author: | Russ Krook III [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
The SMLE is no longger a main battle rifle though. The 40 year old M16 design which saw it's genesis around the time of the VietNam war is being replaced by the M4 derivitive. The M1 Garand, which General Patton said was the greatest implement of war (In WWII) was replaced by the 1960s. The M14 is a derivative of the M1 design, but is used as a tactical sniper/sharpshooter platform and not a main battle rifle. I can't see the US military still using the M16 platform in another 50 years, much less 150 years. Getting back to the subject though, if you want to build a bullpup PR design, knock yourself out! You may have to make some design concessions though, such as stock length.
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| Author: | zuzus [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Well my thinking was more for UK issue. Maybe Australia and France too. Just nations that have already adopted the bullpub configuration that might carry it in to the future. Dom, yeah that's what got me to thinking about bull pup pulseys in the first place although I heard it was an L85. I must have been mis informed, I'm not the biggest weaponologist. Edit: and yeah it would look alot better with just a butt plate. |
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| Author: | Ttaskmaster [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
zuzus wrote: although I heard it was an L85. Same thing, mate. 'L85' is the official designation. SA-80 was the project code, meaning something like "Small Arm of the 1980s". Most people call it an SA-80 now, I think. Russ Krook III wrote: The SMLE is no longger a main battle rifle though. No, and in the film they're using Pulseys. But there must be a reason why they have old-fashioned shooters on board. Maybe, like the Enfield, they're now considered specialist weapons, or something. |
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| Author: | zuzus [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Ah right. Cheers Woody. I like the idea of the specialist weapons. After all, the Sulaco Is just a floating base. It needs to have everything aboard that the marines would need for any encounter or mission. |
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| Author: | Ttaskmaster [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Including cheaply made 1980s bullpup weapons that break at the most inopportune moments with alarming regularity, you mean? "Never forget that your weapon was made by the lowest bidder". Murphy's Laws of Combat. |
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| Author: | Winch [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
An ex-Gunner mate of mine claims he was fined for calling it an SA-80 during his Basic Training! |
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| Author: | Ttaskmaster [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Too right. From what I recall during my training, it's called a "weapon, you moron". Not a rifle, SA-80, L85, gun, shooter, piece, boom-stick, shooty-bang or anything like that..... Even then, when I referred to it as my "weapon, you moron" as he instructed, the Corporal still had a go at me... I dunno, maybe I didn't pronounce it right.
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| Author: | zuzus [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
| quality Ttaskmaster. That's crazy, being fined for calling it what it is though!
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| Author: | Ttaskmaster [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
I think he may just be shitting you
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| Author: | Padsbrat [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Sgt Baldwin wrote: Don't even really need a stock, just a butt plate... You know of course the SA-80 is a Colonial Marine weapon, right? Oh I do I had a great moment regarding the SA-80. I was carrying one during a weekend drop when someone from the UK Garrison tried to argue with me that my rifle was not screen accurate and I should not be using it. I told him it is and that even if it wasn't, we don't hold by strict SA rules as the UKG do. He retorted with a "it spoils the illusion, its not screen accurate, don't use it." It was then that Trevor Steadman, who had been listening to our debate, leaned in from behind the UKG Screen Accuracy policeman and said "Actually, it is mate." PWNED! HAHA HA HAHAHA! The guy gave me dirty looks for the rest of the weekend. Muhahahahahahaha. |
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| Author: | DW [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
It'd look pretty good with a butt plate, and if you got rid of the grenade launcher. You could bill it as a close range weapon, for when you can't swing a pulse rifle around, because it stands to reason if you're having trouble moving around with a pulsey, you wouldn't want a grenade launcher either. the forward trigger and launcher shape just ruins the shape of the gun, in my opinion. |
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| Author: | Matsuo [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Hey...   M |
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| Author: | Russ Krook III [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Make it so, number one. Engage! Whoops, wrong series. Nice model Matt! |
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| Author: | Matsuo [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bullpup Pulse rifle? |
Did a full size printout, and laid an airsot over it, looks like I'll need to stetch it back about 2 inches and down about one otherwise it'll work. M |
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