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 Post subject: My Grid(pic heavy)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:33 am 
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I recently bought a Grid. It was high 20's.
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No floppy so I need external.
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I know that it is not the version/model in the movie. I have one with the row of function keys.
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I do not know if this is the original chip protect lid. It did not come with any chips in the 4 slots.
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It did not come with a battery or a cord but I had an extra computer cord that worked. This is what comes up on screen when started.
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By the above pics do I have any hope of running a gun program on here? Do not know much about DOS. I have been following the other Grid threads. Seeing that I have not came across one up here I snagged it.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:45 am 
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Looks cool 8)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:38 pm 
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Thanks! Has anyone printed off a transparency?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:33 am 
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Has anyone printed off a transparency?


Not sure if I get you right here:
Do you want to print out the SG-screen on a transparency and place it on the display?
Not sure if you'll be able to change the color of the Text/Graphics but except for that it should work.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:14 pm 
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It would be printed out in black. It would just be a static screen for display. Just like the ones printed out for computer screens in the stores. Just asking if someone has done it yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:55 pm 
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Has anyone taken a grid case apart and fitted in a modern laptop?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:08 pm 
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I have toyed with the printout idea as a power-off display (not on transparency though).
Simple operation - take the the screen-graphic you like, scale it to the dimensions of your screen, print, cut and Bob's your uncle.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:40 pm 
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Glenn wrote:
Has anyone taken a grid case apart and fitted in a modern laptop?

You'd need a very odd aspect-ratio LCD panel that was compatible with modern PC graphics hardware, or a custom (hardware) driver-circuit so that the modern laptop can drive the original Grid screen.

Also, I doubt that even the "DOS-compatible" Grid has a conventional keyboard controller so you'd have the same problem - find a modern keyboard that fits, or roll-your-own keyboard interface to connect the original keyboard to modern hardware, or plug in a USB keyboard to start the program on the modern laptop but that would spoil the effect - a keyboard is needed for it to be interactive.

There are some eccentric ultra-wide sub-notebooks around (I think Sony made them at least), but it would be an amazing coincidence if one had exactly the right screen - I don't think they would be big enough.

It would probably be easier to develop software for the Grid hardware. I wish I had a screen-accurate Grid: It would be a nice thing to add to my to-do (never to-get-done) list ... :(


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:43 pm 
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i just want a sentry gun program to run on my old laptop

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:57 pm 
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I was thinking more along the lines of gutting the grid case and taking the shell minus screen then find a small enough laptop to fit.. that might work?

Did not some one write a sentry gun programme for a laptop.. Mike Rush?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:01 pm 
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I was thinking more along the lines of gutting the grid case and taking the shell minus screen then find a small enough laptop to fit.. that might work?


Yes, I understand - I'm not that stupid! ;)

I'm saying that if you wanted it to look screen-accurate, you'd need a very odd shaped LCD panel. You could use a screen that is too small but that wouldn't look right. You could mask a conventional aspect ratio screen, but there probably isn't enough space in Grid's case to fit even a 16:9 screen and have it the right size/shape when masked.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:05 pm 
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i've seen flash versions and i cant remember who did it but someone did write a very good sentry gun programme but in an amiga programming language meaning u need to run an emuklator which my laptop isnt much capable of doing

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:06 pm 
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I'd just use an EEE PC and run the Amiga emu prog on that. The size isn't that far off. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:06 pm 
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Does anyone have a copy of the Amiga AMOS version?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:07 pm 
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i have it

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:09 pm 
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EDIT: AL Member Paul Kitching made it, I might drop him a line. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.a.kitching/sentry.htm

Question is, could it be redeveloped in DOS Qbasic easily, or does it use too much of AMOS's wackiness?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:09 pm 
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Mike made a flash based program that will run on a modern laptop, but not on a DOS based PC.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:13 pm 
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oh alright then only because i'm nice like that
am making it my aim to be able to run the sentry gun program on my lappy and then put cool stenciling etc on the casing of it

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:17 pm 
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Pug50 wrote:
Glenn wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of gutting the grid case and taking the shell minus screen then find a small enough laptop to fit.. that might work?


Yes, I understand - I'm not that stupid! ;)

I'm saying that if you wanted it to look screen-accurate, you'd need a very odd shaped LCD panel. You could use a screen that is too small but that wouldn't look right. You could mask a conventional aspect ratio screen, but there probably isn't enough space in Grid's case to fit even a 16:9 screen and have it the right size/shape when masked.


Abe,
Couldn't you use one of the small Netbook internals...it seems as though the screen size would be about right...say 9.5, 10.1 or a 11.1 inch size?)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:15 pm 
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The Gunny wrote:
Pug50 wrote:
I'm saying that if you wanted it to look screen-accurate, you'd need a very odd shaped LCD panel. You could use a screen that is too small but that wouldn't look right. You could mask a conventional aspect ratio screen, but there probably isn't enough space in Grid's case to fit even a 16:9 screen and have it the right size/shape when masked.


Abe,
Couldn't you use one of the small Netbook internals...it seems as though the screen size would be about right...say 9.5, 10.1 or a 11.1 inch size?)


Either I'm having a total mental failure, have a higher standard of screen-accuracy or people really aren't getting my point.

If you have a Gridcase and a spare 4:3, 16:10 or even a 16:9 laptop please make it fit and prove me wrong.

I just think it would be difficult, bordering on impossible if you wanted to make it look exactly "right" (unless someone could find a ~21:9 laptop that had exactly the right screen size and happened to have the same size/shape/style keyboard as a 1980s luggable). IMO, it would be easier to just develop software for the Gridcase.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:58 pm 
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I just gutted my Gridcase2 monitor.

Space for a screen looks to be 6 x 10.75 in.

I bought my Grid2 awhile ago, to see if I could swap keyboards with my Grid4 tempest (has function keys). They didn't have the same connections.


How could you interface the existing keyboard with a modern PC?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:54 pm 
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Maybe you could put in a portable dvd player

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:35 pm 
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But you'd have to somehow get it transfered to a DVD for that to work.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:53 pm 
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I read online that GridCases do support and offer DOS systems so why not just reproducing the countdown screens with simple programs like Turbo Pascal?
I can imagine that a lot of you youngsters are not familiar with such "antique" programs but they are really not THAT hard to learn... surely easier than gutting a gridcase and try to fit a modern laptop in it (I have nightmares just thinking about doing that!)


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