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 Post subject: need your help w/ a licensed project
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:11 pm 
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Yo, could use everyone's help here on a licensed project. Feel free to take a look at the following image:

www.alienscollection.com/dropship.pdf

and offer up new names and suggestions for things - and perhaps we can stay consistent with some of what's been done before, but we don't have to stay married to the tech manual or anything. Feel free to post any and suggestions here.

We're also MAY be looking for someone to create a small little schematic of the side, front and top elevations - kind of like the Halcyon kit instructions - this would be printed in the lower right corner of the poster - along with the various logos as well...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:33 pm 
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Willie I'm not really sure just what the project IS, could you tell us a little more?

EDIT: Ahh, you want names for stuff, right?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:37 pm 
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Yes, sorry, it's for a licensed print that will be distributed by a collectibles company.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:42 pm 
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If I could chime my two cents in, the "gun sight" is pointing to the pilot's console. Shouldn't it be on the Weapons Officer's in the rear seat?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:11 pm 
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Arse about face, surely? The gunner should be in the front I would have thought?
 

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:58 pm 
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Eagle wrote:

Arse about face, surely? The gunner should be in the front I would have thought?


The gunner should be if you follow conventional real world gunship seating a la the Apache. MI-24 and Cobra that incorporate such a layout, but the 'Aliens ' dropship had Ferro the pilot in front with Spunkmeyer the WO sat behind :idea:

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Sidenote - took one look at it and thought it was for a Doring Kindersley book :shock: until I read Willie's comment about it being a poster


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Just looking at the 'chin mounted machine gun ammunition drive feed bit'.

Wouldn't the weapon better be described as a minigun or gatling gun due to it having multiple barrels? Just a thought.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:14 pm 
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Now you're just being picky... ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:58 pm 
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Willie, here's what I thought of (without spending hours at it):

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Now you're just being picky... ;)

Yeah, that's my job. :wink:

Q. Are we sure the engines are nuclear-powered?

I'd have thought four 'future jet engines' would have been the more logical design, like the Harrier VTOL.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:22 pm 
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Awesome - I love it!

Can we name the missiles seen?

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PVB wrote:
Outcry27 wrote:
Now you're just being picky... ;)

Yeah, that's my job. :wink:

Q. Are we sure the engines are nuclear-powered?

I'd have thought four 'future jet engines' would have been the more logical design, like the Harrier VTOL.


Obviously there's no technical information about the dropships in the movie, but according to the EU they're "Variable-Intake Ramjet" engines. The idea is that the inlet spike moves in or out to switch the engine between atmospheric and spaceflight modes. In space, it functions along the principles of a rocket; during descent, it uses the high airspeed to operate as a Ramjet, and during normal atmospheric flight it works like a regular jet engine.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:00 pm 
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Guided Missiles :

Just a few 'literally right off the top of my head' ideas:

DGM-63 Guided Missiles ( DGM - Dropship Guided Missile ) 63 - count the letters alpha numerically in Aliens Legacy and you get 60 and 53 - take first number of each 63.

Or maybe AL-63 guided missiles?

Hey you cant knock a tryer :P

Hmm

Unguided missiles:

HH86 Mk2 or WG86 Mk2 Unguided Rockets

Initials from a couple of well known members of this board and the Aliens community ( yeah sorry tis a bit cheesy I know ), 86 to designate the year a certain film was released and Mk2 to designate the second film in a certain series



Just random stuff - just thinking has there even been any EU designations for the various weapons in comics or novels etc?

:xeno:

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Do you know where that was published? The Variable Ramjet engines?


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Willie Goldman wrote:
Do you know where that was published? The Variable Ramjet engines?


Yeah, in the Tech Manual. There's diagrams of how it operates, too.

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Where's the Samoflange?
There HAS to be a Samoflange.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:33 pm 
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I was under the impression that the Sentry Gun were recovered from the APC not in an obscure roof compartment that you would need a ladder to get to or to stand on top of the APC (if loaded onto the Drop ship) to get to.

Maybe I too am just being picky but many of the items pointed out just seem redundant to label or don't make much sense at all.

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I have an Aliens comic from Dark Horse International dated February 1994 with a Technical readout of the UD-4L Cheyenne (drop ship) with 68 items listed.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:38 am 
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Excuse me but isn't this print is already licensed ? I mean I bought one (w/o names) and the guy told me it was licensed.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:40 pm 
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I spoke with this gentleman 2 years ago at D*Con and he was talking about this as well as a poster.

As for details...I know a lot of the missiles were named in the TM....but are you wanting to copy those specifics or go fresh?

Here is an OLD website did on it...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:09 pm 
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Here is a cut away poster.

It's not labeled , not sure if you can still get would have to contact the artist.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.mullaney60/

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:29 pm 
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This is what I was looking for - the proper names of the missiles identified and labeled according to the tech manual:

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I think Mike came up with this schematic, so thanks Mr. Rush!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:38 pm 
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If you want all the exact weapon designations a la the TM, I'm sure any of us can crack it open for you.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:42 pm 
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Yeah, that would be great - I'm 3500 miles from mine at the moment!


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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:46 am 
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I have the details listed on the site I posted.

Taken directly from the TM back in 1999.

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