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Author:  Cpl Smith [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:31 am ]
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Anyone know how the Savanna case is attached to Hicks strap??

Im thinking electrical tape like Hudsons knife was...


Derek
Author:  SSgt Burton [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:14 am ]
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Wasn't it with a belt hook keyring thingy?

Like this only brass---

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Better pic--


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Author:  SSgt Burton [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:45 am ]
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Come to think of it Bro... I think you're right about the electric tape-




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The more I look at screengrabs, production stills, etc...

Even though the Savanna case has one of those keyrings attached to it, it is not attached to his grenade strap by it. The case seems to be attached as you hypothesized- with the keyring dangling free. :)
Author:  Ripstick [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:18 am ]
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Actually... you are BOTH right. :D

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Author:  Space Jockey [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:51 am ]
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That's a really good shot of it actually, I have to try to make a 1/6 scale one for my Hicks Hot Toys figure so this comes in handy. Thanks! :)
Author:  Cpl Smith [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:08 am ]
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Wow...thanks Rick. Also, I never noticed the split ring with it...


Derek
Author:  Glenn [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:27 am ]
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so that looks like another hole i have to drill in to my armour now... :cry:
Author:  TS826 [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:49 am ]
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The second photo is of James Remar/ Hicks.

I'm not sure that Michael Biehn/ Hicks ever had his lighter attached by the snap hook.
Author:  Adonis [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:58 pm ]
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Well not too many of us are trying to be Hicks.... just Marines with Hicks type lighter cases.
Author:  Cpl Smith [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:01 pm ]
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AdonisSniper wrote:
Well not too many of us are trying to be Hicks.... just Marines with Hicks type lighter cases.



Says you...I wanna be the star..hehe :wink:


Derek
Author:  Ripstick [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:03 pm ]
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Correct -- that is James Remar in that photo.

But since that's all of Michael Biehn's original Hicks armour and gear from very early in the production anyways, it's clear that this configuration was the original intent for the lighter attachment.

I guess now it's going to come down to everyone's personal preference. For the last two years I've simply hooked it on with the snap hook and nothing else. Of course that always made it easier for Brian to snatch it off my armour...

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I can just imagine the comments now...

DragonCon Dude #1: "Whoa! Did you see that guy's Hicks armour?"

DragonCon Dude #2: "No. Was it the Michael Biehn 'Hicks' or the James Remar 'Hicks'?"

:wink:
Author:  SSgt Burton [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:38 am ]
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Rick already beat me to the punch with a witty Remar vs Biehn comment...

But I'll post mine anyway. :wink:


1985:First day of shootting at Acton powerstation...

James Cameron (to James Remar): Yeah ummm- James that lighter case you are wearing. Unhook it from your armor epaulette; it looks stupid like that!

Remar: It's how I feel the character would wear it Jim. I'm going to play the character like this.

Cameron: Gale get someone anyone on the GD phone! I think Michael Biehn isn't doing anything this week.
Good-bye James!

Rest is history. :wink:
Author:  Hollis DZC [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:06 am ]
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BTW, I've always wondered, why was James Remar replaced?
Author:  Anubian [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:09 am ]
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god....how many times have i stolen that thing.....like 7 times? HAHAHA
Author:  Ripstick [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:47 am ]
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Hollis DZC wrote:
BTW, I've always wondered, why was James Remar replaced?

Actually, Kevin pretty much nailed it dead on.

After only a few days into shooting, it was officially reported that Cameron and Remar parted ways due to "artistic differences". Unofficially, it was due to the difference of opinion regarding the attachment of the snap-hook on the Savanna Bronica lighter case.

Actors can be so insensitive to a director's vision.


Anubian_Warrior wrote:
god....how many times have i stolen that thing.....like 7 times? HAHAHA

Actually, it was closer to 3. :roll:

Now I know why Hicks used electrical tape to secure his lighter -- one of his buddies kept trying to steal it. :wink:
Author:  SSgt Burton [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:01 pm ]
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Ripstick wrote:
Unofficially, it was due to the difference of opinion regarding the attachment of the snap-hook on the Savanna Bronica lighter case.


You're not serious about it being about the Savanna case are you? :shock:

I knew Remar parted on sour terms- I was kidding about the lighter case. :shock: :lol:

You we're kidding right? :wink: :oops:
Author:  friendlyskies [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:15 pm ]
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Hollis DZC wrote:
BTW, I've always wondered, why was James Remar replaced?


James Remar was ejected from the country shortly after filming began after some trouble with the law.

Darren
Author:  SSgt Burton [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:07 pm ]
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He punched James Cameron for being fired about the Savanna case?! :shock:
Author:  Adonis [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:09 pm ]
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Yes, or as true Aliens fans refer to it... getting Remared.
Author:  Airborne Mike [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:58 am ]
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Maybe Tony can email Cynthia Scott or Jenette Goldstein and ask what the story is. ~hint hint~ :wink:

Mike
Author:  Osmotic [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:06 pm ]
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The story is an interesting one that really shouldn’t be discussed publicly for fear of lawsuits. :wink:
Author:  springer69 [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:00 pm ]
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Cough ... IMDB ...... Cough :wink:
Author:  ROBOCOP [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:30 pm ]
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AdonisSniper wrote:
Yes, or as true Aliens fans refer to it... getting Remared.

Well, it's still much better then "cameraliens" :wink:
Author:  dsw_777 [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:12 pm ]
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Just a thought... If the lighter was clipped to the shoulder plate, It would have given Hicks a hard time in the scene where he has to quickly strip off the armour after being splatted by acid.
Author:  SSgt Burton [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:20 am ]
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springer69 wrote:
Cough ... IMDB ...... Cough :wink:


Reveals nothing we don't already know. :wink:
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