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Which pouch kept the battery for shoulder lamp? The big or hip pouch?

When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time.

I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere!

Harry

Harry Harris wrote:

Do you have pictures of how you charged or replaced the batteries? It might shed light on how they had the power distribution setup. Though given that point, should we just start a new thread on the lamps?

knoxvilles_joker wrote:

Harry Harris wrote:

On the one that I have there's a connector at the bottom of the lamp box that connects to a charger. I don't know what type it is but it looks like what would have been (and maybe still is) a radio-controlled vehicle battery connector.

Harry

I don’t I’m afraid but I’m aware that I should document thinks and make notes on photos I have. I’ll try to get this done in the next few years.

Harry

Looks like a tamiya plug on the bottom?

When I got a battery for my matrix M41A it had an adaptor for that. I could be wrong.

Surely modern batteries are small enough to mount in the lamp body?

my 3d printed body I will probably do a similar setup as I will also use the housing to house a speaker for the smart gun sound effects.

Author:	hunterkiller86 [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:38 pm ]
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Which pouch kept the battery for shoulder lamp? The big or hip pouch?

Author:	bigbisont [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:58 pm ]
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hunterkiller86 wrote: Which pouch kept the battery for shoulder lamp? The big or hip pouch? Off the top of my head, I would say the big/rump pouch. They all wore them over the left buttock. The lamps were on the left side too, so it would be an easy drop. Plus with the pouches behind the body they would not be easily visible when the camera was facing the actor. However I am pretty sure I have seen a pic with the cables from a 'live' lamp that hung all the way down and out of frame being powered from an active source basically with extension cords. I'll try to find it. EDIT: This photo would indicate there were no batteries at all (at least not for everyone). That looks to be his light's extension cord. Attachment: Frost costume Polaroid outdoor back.jpg.jpg [ 178.77 KiB \| Viewed 3554 times ] Attachment: Group Lamp wires.jpg [ 306.1 KiB \| Viewed 3554 times ] However, in this photo all lamps are on, and def no wires. So who knows. Attachment: Vasquez sweep.jpg [ 257.5 KiB \| Viewed 3554 times ]

Author:	Harry Harris [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:02 pm ]
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When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time. I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere! Harry

Author:	SulacoBoy [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:17 pm ]
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Harry Harris wrote: When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time. I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere! Harry Oh wow fascinating! Thanks for sharing!

Author:	knoxvilles_joker [ Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:54 am ]
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Harry Harris wrote: When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time. I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere! Harry Do you have pictures of how you charged or replaced the batteries? It might shed light on how they had the power distribution setup. Though given that point, should we just start a new thread on the lamps?

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Author:	Harry Harris [ Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:51 pm ]
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knoxvilles_joker wrote: Harry Harris wrote: When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time. I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere! Harry Do you have pictures of how you charged or replaced the batteries? It might shed light on how they had the power distribution setup. Though given that point, should we just start a new thread on the lamps? On the one that I have there's a connector at the bottom of the lamp box that connects to a charger. I don't know what type it is but it looks like what would have been (and maybe still is) a radio-controlled vehicle battery connector. Harry

Author:	Harry Harris [ Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:21 pm ]
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I don’t I’m afraid but I’m aware that I should document thinks and make notes on photos I have. I’ll try to get this done in the next few years. Harry

Author:	bigbisont [ Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:34 pm ]
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Oh, I forgot to mention that Hicks did not have a 'hip pouch'. He was the only armored marine to wear only the one pouch (big/rump), so that is another reason it would stand to reason it must have been in the 'big' pouch. Sure he ditched the lamp early, but during the sweep he had a working lamp and only one pouch...so... yeah.

Author:	seven [ Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:05 am ]
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Good point BigbisonT, I watched your youtube video today where you talked about Hicks only having the one pouch. I don't know where I read this, or if it's even from a reputable source, but I once heard that there were batteries inside of the lamp and also a second battery in a pouch. -I don't mean to muddy the waters here.- 15:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jU4Yj1vGuw

Author:	knoxvilles_joker [ Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:41 am ]
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Harry Harris wrote: I don’t I’m afraid but I’m aware that I should document thinks and make notes on photos I have. I’ll try to get this done in the next few years. Harry Well if I ever make it over to England, I would love to have a few interviews to try and help on that as you really are an awesome guy with more knowledge than anything. If anything a podcast just to do information dumps would be good too and that is very doable on youtube with a still picture and just audio commentary. You could even do a slide show with power point and add a custom audio file to play with it through the whole power point and you can then export the powerpoint as a video file that would upload straight to youtube. Baby steps. Take things one bite at a time and even moutains can get moved...

Author:	stimpy [ Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:23 pm ]
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I read somewhere that the battery powered lamps had a really short use like around 30 minutes iicr! So where possible the marines would be plugged into the mains when stationary and filmed from waist hight and the batteries would be used where that was not possible like the shot above with Vasquez walking towards camera. Can't remember where i saw or read it though unfortunately.

Author:	Harry Harris [ Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:31 pm ]
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That sounds about right I'd imagine stimpy. The lamps were 12v MR16 type so would pull a lot of power. These days it would be an LED that would run for hours. Harry

Author:	knoxvilles_joker [ Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:33 am ]
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can we get some pictures of any screen used prop picture power connectors? cord placement and such?

Author:	Harry Harris [ Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:12 am ]
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This is the only image I have at the moment. Attachment: Shoulder Lamp Connector.jpg [ 499.77 KiB \| Viewed 3280 times ] Harry

Author:	retrogarde [ Thu May 27, 2021 10:45 pm ]
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Well look at that!

Author:	retrogarde [ Fri May 28, 2021 11:52 am ]
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88reaper88 wrote: Surely modern batteries are small enough to mount in the lamp body? Absolutely. Mine is a Chef repro and runs on double A's. Bigbisont even converted a rechargeable flashlight to fit (with a USB port at the bottom). There's a video on his YouTube channel showing how to do it.

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Author:	djdrthq [ Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:36 pm ]
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Looks like a tamiya plug on the bottom?

Author:	seven [ Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:55 am ]
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When I got a battery for my matrix M41A it had an adaptor for that. I could be wrong.

Author:	knoxvilles_joker [ Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:45 pm ]
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seven wrote: When I got a battery for my matrix M41A it had an adaptor for that. I could be wrong. The matrix has a small tamiya. That plug appears to be a large tamiya...

Author:	bigbisont [ Thu May 27, 2021 5:38 pm ]
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Not sure this actually adds anything that hasn't been discussed, but I realized in this pic that it shows pretty clearly the cable from Hick's lamp going inside the backplate then down and out the bottom into his "large" pouch (or the rump pouch as I call them) on the left side. Attachment: Hicks Ops polaroid.jpg [ 125.94 KiB \| Viewed 2960 times ]

Author:	88reaper88 [ Fri May 28, 2021 7:42 am ]
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Surely modern batteries are small enough to mount in the lamp body?

Author:	knoxvilles_joker [ Fri May 28, 2021 12:27 pm ]
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my 3d printed body I will probably do a similar setup as I will also use the housing to house a speaker for the smart gun sound effects.

Author:	retrogarde [ Fri May 28, 2021 5:14 pm ]
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knoxvilles_joker wrote: my 3d printed body I will probably do a similar setup as I will also use the housing to house a speaker for the smart gun sound effects. That is a cool idea, especially with the way the lamp floats a bit on the smartgunner armour. The sound should carry pretty well.