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I can't raise any excitement for soulless Hollywood reboots, written by committee.
And I love that you think they won't trample all over the original movies to make what they want to - just look at Star Wars. They don't care, they just want money from memberberries

On the other hand, if it creates interest in the franchise again and makes them produce decent merch based on the original films (looking at you Hot Toys) then I can happily ignore it all and just benefit from that

Well look at the mandalorian. I think with die hard fans like us, We could make great contributions just like the 501st did to that show. And I do like how they are forcing so many things to become canon again.

I am seeing a turning in some of the products hollywood is making, but, recent movements are becoming a wake up call that certain ideas are bad for business and bad for the local economies.

There is hope there. If there is a call for scripts I will gladly try my hand.

But I do agree with you the toyetic possibilities do have me very excited regardless.

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The Mando is a big pile of "meh" in my opinion. Does nothing for the universe other than make things senseless (tracking devices that work perfectly to find an individual across the entire galaxy when the story needs it, ignored all the rest of the time) and wrecks established characters (Boba Fett is no longer the ruthless bounty hunter but the stand up guy who helps you out in a pinch). Most episodes are contrived and have no flow to them. And don't get me started on the desperate marketing of cutsie toys (looking at you Grow Goo!)
The 501st inclusion was just them cheaping out - how can we get 30 people in quality Storm Trooper armour to fill this scene. Hey use the 501st, they have the kit and will work for free!
As for scripts, Hollywood writes scripts one way now - with maximum box ticking and by committee. I don't hold any hope that anything will be faithful to the original movies in any way at all. Rather than making a good film that will then make money they set out to make money using whatever their focus groups (which are rarely fans) tell them.

But like I say, if it gets us new toys of the original movies, then I'm all for it

The new part is the reveal that it will be set on Earth, in the not too distant future.

The 501st inclusion was just them cheaping out - how can we get 30 people in quality Storm Trooper armour to fill this scene. Hey use the 501st, they have the kit and will work for free!

I would agree that they really screwed over the 501st.

Author:	Willie Goldman [ Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:05 am ]
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Author:	retrogarde [ Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:03 am ]
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Funny how a single sentence synopsis can set off so many alarm bells. Still, I am hopeful!

Author:	knoxvilles_joker [ Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:51 am ]
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It is making the rounds. But rumors of a show have been persisting for the past few months on facebook.

Author:	retrogarde [ Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:59 am ]
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This is a legitimate announcement after months of rumors. The new part is the reveal that it will be set on Earth, in the not too distant future. On Earth is a bummer as the fight to keep the aliens off Earth was integral to the original four films. On the other hand, I am old enough to have read all the Dark Horse Earth War comics, and I remember the Alien3 teaser trailer that said "on Earth, everyone can hear you scream", so I have an open mind. The other question is when this series fits in the existing timeline. Are the events of Aliens (2179) considered not too distant? We'll just have to wait and see. I really am curious!

Author:	88reaper88 [ Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:05 am ]
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Good to hear Disney has faith in the franchise and is giving it another shot.

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Author:	badkarma [ Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:38 am ]
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I can't raise any excitement for soulless Hollywood reboots, written by committee. And I love that you think they won't trample all over the original movies to make what they want to - just look at Star Wars. They don't care, they just want money from memberberries On the other hand, if it creates interest in the franchise again and makes them produce decent merch based on the original films (looking at you Hot Toys) then I can happily ignore it all and just benefit from that

Author:	knoxvilles_joker [ Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:59 pm ]
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badkarma wrote: I can't raise any excitement for soulless Hollywood reboots, written by committee. And I love that you think they won't trample all over the original movies to make what they want to - just look at Star Wars. They don't care, they just want money from memberberries On the other hand, if it creates interest in the franchise again and makes them produce decent merch based on the original films (looking at you Hot Toys) then I can happily ignore it all and just benefit from that Well look at the mandalorian. I think with die hard fans like us, We could make great contributions just like the 501st did to that show. And I do like how they are forcing so many things to become canon again. I am seeing a turning in some of the products hollywood is making, but, recent movements are becoming a wake up call that certain ideas are bad for business and bad for the local economies. There is hope there. If there is a call for scripts I will gladly try my hand. But I do agree with you the toyetic possibilities do have me very excited regardless.

Author:	badkarma [ Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:16 pm ]
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knoxvilles_joker wrote: Well look at the mandalorian. I think with die hard fans like us, We could make great contributions just like the 501st did to that show. And I do like how they are forcing so many things to become canon again. I am seeing a turning in some of the products hollywood is making, but, recent movements are becoming a wake up call that certain ideas are bad for business and bad for the local economies. There is hope there. If there is a call for scripts I will gladly try my hand. But I do agree with you the toyetic possibilities do have me very excited regardless. The Mando is a big pile of "meh" in my opinion. Does nothing for the universe other than make things senseless (tracking devices that work perfectly to find an individual across the entire galaxy when the story needs it, ignored all the rest of the time) and wrecks established characters (Boba Fett is no longer the ruthless bounty hunter but the stand up guy who helps you out in a pinch). Most episodes are contrived and have no flow to them. And don't get me started on the desperate marketing of cutsie toys (looking at you Grow Goo!) The 501st inclusion was just them cheaping out - how can we get 30 people in quality Storm Trooper armour to fill this scene. Hey use the 501st, they have the kit and will work for free! As for scripts, Hollywood writes scripts one way now - with maximum box ticking and by committee. I don't hold any hope that anything will be faithful to the original movies in any way at all. Rather than making a good film that will then make money they set out to make money using whatever their focus groups (which are rarely fans) tell them. But like I say, if it gets us new toys of the original movies, then I'm all for it

Author:	knoxvilles_joker [ Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:24 am ]
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badkarma wrote: knoxvilles_joker wrote: Well look at the mandalorian. I think with die hard fans like us, We could make great contributions just like the 501st did to that show. And I do like how they are forcing so many things to become canon again. I am seeing a turning in some of the products hollywood is making, but, recent movements are becoming a wake up call that certain ideas are bad for business and bad for the local economies. There is hope there. If there is a call for scripts I will gladly try my hand. But I do agree with you the toyetic possibilities do have me very excited regardless. The Mando is a big pile of "meh" in my opinion. Does nothing for the universe other than make things senseless (tracking devices that work perfectly to find an individual across the entire galaxy when the story needs it, ignored all the rest of the time) and wrecks established characters (Boba Fett is no longer the ruthless bounty hunter but the stand up guy who helps you out in a pinch). Most episodes are contrived and have no flow to them. And don't get me started on the desperate marketing of cutsie toys (looking at you Grow Goo!) The 501st inclusion was just them cheaping out - how can we get 30 people in quality Storm Trooper armour to fill this scene. Hey use the 501st, they have the kit and will work for free! As for scripts, Hollywood writes scripts one way now - with maximum box ticking and by committee. I don't hold any hope that anything will be faithful to the original movies in any way at all. Rather than making a good film that will then make money they set out to make money using whatever their focus groups (which are rarely fans) tell them. But like I say, if it gets us new toys of the original movies, then I'm all for it Guess I missed out on novels in the star wars universe after age 18 then. I would agree that they really screwed over the 501st. As far as the marketing aspect I would agree with you. Although there is a realization that the current marketing schemes are corrupting the ability to effectively market things now. Writing things with that marketing in mind does ruin plot lines. Though writing for toys gave us transformers, GI Joe, and other great 80s cartoons. Though in todays environment I would tend to agree that such modern marketing versions would ruin things in some way.

Author:	ADC [ Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:55 pm ]
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retrogarde wrote: The new part is the reveal that it will be set on Earth, in the not too distant future. Cue Vancouver skyline with a few embellishments, like so many other sci-fi staples. Still. You never know. And the choice of director is promising. So fingers crossed. Has to be taken as good news. Especially after that Covenant nonsense. As someone said, Mandalorian is good. BSG raised the bar and everyone here knows this material has the potential to be truly great. Let's just hope they're interested in the themes that we are, as opposed to it being a giant woke-fest.

Author:	Space Jockey [ Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:52 pm ]
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The 'set on earth in the not too distant future' part worries me as it reminds me of the AVP movies, which I hate. The franchise has done a pretty good job of giving me exactly what I don't want lately with cute alien cookbooks and vinyl pop toys so we'll see.

Author:	hunterkiller86 [ Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:56 pm ]
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it all depends on who is the showrunner, writer, cast, etc. The synopsis so far does not have me too interested

Author:	bigbisont [ Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:17 pm ]
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Regarding their treatment of the Mandalorian, I will first say I am not a super hard core fan and more of a casual "Star Wars" fan. I watched and highly enjoyed the (original) movies. I played some of the video games. I really dig the troopers and variants overall as I have always liked their bad guys. Along those lines, I have to say I have really enjoyed the Mandalorian. If Disney is smart, they will realize they hit on a winning formula here. The Mandalorian is not without faults, but they way they draw elements from EVERYWHERE is just insane! There are callbacks and references to not only the movies, but to the video games, novels, and even one-off christmas specials! There is no reason an Alien series can't do the same thing if they are building a proper world for the series. The Alien universe is a HUGE place with TONS of elements that are begging to be put on screen. That said...an "earth" and "not too distant future" based show sounds like the opposite of what I want. That sounds like AvP:R...minus the P. (aka: the absolute pits). Fingers crossed that it ends up better than it sounds. Overall it is nice that they still see the Alien franchise as a draw. It is certainly better than the alternative where they mothball the whole thing.

Author:	Harry Harris [ Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:16 pm ]
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badkarma wrote: The 501st inclusion was just them cheaping out - how can we get 30 people in quality Storm Trooper armour to fill this scene. Hey use the 501st, they have the kit and will work for free! I rather think that including the 501st was a great mark of respect to the fan community rather than Disney 'cheaping out', I mean it would cost relatively (relative to the whole production budget I mean) very little to make a few sets of armour and use stunt or background performers in the show - but instead they reached out to some of the people who keep the franchise alive. If a production came to us (the AL) and wanted to use some of our members in a TV show I'd jump at the chance to be included, as would all of us I think. What an honour it would be to be asked. knoxvilles_joker wrote: I would agree that they really screwed over the 501st. Is this an actual thing? I don't know anyone from the 501st but have they said they weren't happy being asked to appear in the show? I mean they all have armour that's 'screen used' now so that's not bad! Harry

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Author:	retrogarde [ Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:13 pm ]
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This is the first I have heard of anyone from the 501st being unhappy with how that went down. Do we have a source or is this jusr unsubstantiated rumor and emotional projecting? The Alien show is being helmed by a talented creator (not a committee) who has proven himself more than capable. Don't like the sound of "near future" (a relative term given the chronology of the Alien saga) on Earth? Well, his show Fargo jumps all over the place in time from season to season. Who is to say he won't do the same with Alien? Having each season be discreet would also help draw A List talent. We'll just have to wait and see.