Hello,

After a great hunt and thousands pages of vintage shirt from the 80s visited on ebay, etsy..., i was able to identify the shirt that , it seems, was used by Burke in ALIENS, with the identical fabrics.

It is a vintage Ralph Lauren Blake Shirt , plaid

Did they customize it a little for the movie?

This shirt don't often pop but can be found, and it is ralph lauren so they must have produce it a lot.

Now i hope to discover soon the body warmer ...

I let the admin add this to the listing topic of original prop/ costume

Pictures of mine , size XL

good hunt

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Good find and if you match it with pants and shoes, you have a costume. Great job!

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The impossible takes a while longer and goes over budget too...

Great find!

Harry

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This is AWESOME. Not every day you find 'new' "found item" gear! Def being added to the 'found item' thread.

While there is no clear pic of it, I think it is safe to say the collar was modified into the 'mandarin' collar like all the other shirts were.
I am very curious to see if the tabs/flaps are present that hold the sleeves up in the 'rolled' position or if they were added for filming.

Also fun note, he has a fastex/side release belt buckle. Some 'executive'...

Who can ID his shoes next?!

tabs/flaps are not present on mine. Maybe they reused a part of the collar?

The pant is identify? To me it look blue.

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great find!

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I have dabbled with trying to find the vest before and this has sort of motivated me to ramp up the efforts.

Here are some thoughts/theories. What do ya'll think?

At first glance, it looks puffy like a synthetic jacket, but the closeups kind of make it look leather.
However full grain leather would not likely be flexible enough to get that crumpled elastic hem at the bottom of the jacket. So I was thinking it may actually be suede.


Also, I don't believe it started as a vest. If you look at the arm openings, I get the feeling that it used to be a full long sleeve jacket.
If you look at seam 'A', that appears to be the original sleeve seem. 'B' is a much lighter duty finish and my theory is they cut off the sleeves, leaving a little extra material for the purpose of a unique look, and sealed it off leaving behind a couple inches of the original sleeve.


I have been searching for vintage suede jackets without much luck but you never know. Anyone else with thoughts?

Yes it look like suede .

Maybe a work wear or ski/mountain vest

Key word: bodywarmer , gilet, vest, waiscoat, suede coat , bomber....

I hope it was not a custom work because in this case we will never found something.
Produce by Wested as Ripley leather coat?

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This is a page from the June 5th-6th, 1993 "Camden House Auctioneers" Catalog.
The only photo I can find of the specific auction lot, within the catalog, shows a description of items 243 and 244 (The BDU's). But doesn't show number 242 (Burke's costume).
The interesting part is that for the other two items, it describes what is written on the clothing tags.
I am guessing if someone has this catalog (or springs for one which can in fact still be found), the page before, which has the description for 242, might also describe what is written on any possible tags (such as a manufacturer ?)

Everybody just hauled ass over to ebay...

Not everybody...

@TS826 Nice!!! now someone has to found one of this catalog and the mistery bodywarmer will be discover lol

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here there is one : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Camden-House-A ... %3A2334524

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Here's the whole page.


Harry

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Thanks Harry!

Sadly no brand

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Thanks for posting that.

Yeah. No brand. Bummer.
But it does confirm the suede.
I'm also wondering if "sleeveless jacket" is just another term to describe the appearance of a vest, or does it actually mean a jacket with the sleeves removed (?)

You're welcome!


If that auction was in the UK it's likely that it is what Americans would call a 'vest' (that's to say it looks like a jacket but never had sleeves). Us Brits however would call it a 'sleeveless jacket' as over here a vest is one of these:



I'm not saying I know what the garment was originally as we don't know that for sure yet. I'm just talking about the terminology used between countries to describe things. I should say though that 'body warmers' like the one that Burke wears were extremely popular in the 1980s.

Harry

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Fantastic find!

Sure seems like they just removed the collar; can even see thread remnants.

And those sleeve tabs; if not present then it'd require finding another for a donor shirt.

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Could they have been made from the collar perhaps?

Harry

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To me, it looks like they'd need much more fabric than a collar could provide

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Agreed re extra fabric.
Guesstimating from the length of my upper arm, that's about 15cm (maybe even as much as 20cm) of loop showing, plus some extra inside the sleeve to anchor it.

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I've seen several similar gilets in films from the early 80s, one of which I'm quite familiar with.
This looks like one of the Style Auto jackets - https://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm?viewpartnum=171615
Or, as suggested, a ski vest - https://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm?vi ... DER=Womens
https://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm?vi ... DER=Womens

These were usually synthetic and did all have sleeves, but some were zip-off while others were just removed for the costume. All of them had these 80s style sleeve cuffs though, which are a feature not a remnant of something else. If you look closely, just behind and above Burke's right shoulder past your highlighted Seam B, you can just make out the main layer of material inside the sleeve cap, which suggests the latter is indeed an original feature. Standalone vests tended not to have the sleeve caps, as they had no zips to cover.

These back to back comments are priceless.

Ralph Lauren logo clearly visible here

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