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| Author: | TS826 [ Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Dog tag specs ? |
I did know this at one time, but not any longer. I'm hoping someone can list the measurements, thickness, and font used on the tags? Searched the forum, but came up with nothing. |
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| Author: | badkarma [ Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
Can I add to this request as well please and ask is the text just engraved, or is filled with white (which gets dirty), brown, black, gold(!)? I've seen pictures that seem to show all of those colours but I've no idea what the original ones were. |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
I know the originals were engraved and filled with Brown Bess. Edit: Found the dimensions. From the Propstore Auction... Quote: Dimensions (dog tags): 4.7 cm x 2.8 cm x 0.01 cm (2” x 1 ¼” x ¼”) (dog tags on chain): 37.5 cm x 2.8 cm x 0.01 cm (14 ¾” x 1 ¼” x ¼”)  LINK |
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| Author: | 88reaper88 [ Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:55 am ] |
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http://www.harryharris.com/dtcrowe.htm |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
Just as a clarification... Considering the above quoted millimeter numbers do not equal the inch numbers, listed next to them, I've chatted with Propstore and was assured to go with the mm. When converting to inches, for use in descriptions, they just round to the nearest quarter inch. * Still searching for the correct font. |
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| Author: | Bug Stomper [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
IIRC, the font for name and rank is "Helvetica" while the serial number is "Helvetica Condensed Light". Cheers Stefan |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:18 am ] | ||
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Thanks for that. - Helvetica Condensed - Original - Tondo, by daltonmaag.com I think, with a little Kerning and Tracking, the second font might be a good choice.
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| Author: | TS826 [ Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
Propstore Original: Attachment: HD01.jpg [ 46.07 KiB | Viewed 3206 times ] Film Original: Attachment: HD02.jpg [ 75.17 KiB | Viewed 3206 times ] What up with that ? . |
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| Author: | smrtazzsmrtgnnr [ Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
TS826 wrote: Thanks for that. - Helvetica Condensed - Original - Tondo, by daltonmaag.com I think, with a little Kerning and Tracking, the second font might be a good choice. The Helvetica whatchimacallit ends up looking like the Tondo when single line engraved with a rotary engraver, simply because of tool rotation. |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
Good stuff to know. I'm currently having tags made with a laser. I ended up starting with the Tondo font, but by the time I was finished, I had ended up redrawing all the characters by hand. Attachment: Custom_Font01c.jpg [ 77.65 KiB | Viewed 3162 times ] Now wondering about the "Pt." Versus "Pfc." I know there were prototype dogtags, with the half circle edge, which were then changed to rounded rectangles. So, it's curious if the Propstore tags were also on screen, or are they another prototype. |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:00 pm ] | ||
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The result. Hand drawn letters/ numbers. (Almost have the whole alphabet finished) Height / Width to exact specs of the Propstore measurements. But did make them an 1/8 in. thick, as the propstore tags are apparently paper thin. * Filled with actual #170 BB.
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| Author: | knoxvilles_joker [ Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:57 pm ] |
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Were you using true type, post script or another font style type? |
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| Author: | SulacoBoy [ Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
TS826 wrote: The result. Hand drawn letters/ numbers. (Almost have the whole alphabet finished) Height / Width to exact specs of the Propstore measurements. But did make them an 1/8 in. thick, as the propstore tags are apparently paper thin. * Filled with actual #170 BB. That’s nice ! 
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| Author: | TS826 [ Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 am ] | ||
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I started with the "Tondo" True Type Font, but by the time I was finished, I ended up redrawing the characters by hand. This resulted in the whole thing being a finished vector image, which was then laser engraved. The Hudson tags are/ were a test piece. Personally, I'm going with custom tags of my own...
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| Author: | knoxvilles_joker [ Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
TS826 wrote: I started with the "Tondo" True Type Font, but by the time I was finished, I ended up redrawing the characters by hand. This resulted in the whole thing being a finished vector image, which was then laser engraved. The Hudson tags are/ were a test piece. Personally, I'm going with custom tags of my own... So you built your own font? After my preliminary research, if we can find no font like what is created, we may be well off to trademark things. Done properly, it can boost group visibility, and maybe get you some more business if you are selling things. |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
Yep. Have most of the alphabet, and 0-9 finished. |
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| Author: | SulacoBoy [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:08 pm ] |
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Sweet I’m down for two lol. |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
I can start a PX thread in the near future. |
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| Author: | knoxvilles_joker [ Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
TS826 wrote: Yep. Have most of the alphabet, and 0-9 finished. Uh, would you mind sharing the font? If not would you mind selling and we can hash out trademarks so your work is protected. |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
It's not quite that ready. Although I have most of the main lettering done (Line number 2) Line number one (rank) and line 3 (serial number) are not the same as the others. I believe the main lettering will have to be the Uppercase.. the bottom line listed as lower case, and the rank as "special Characters". Still have work to do to make that all happen. As that progresses, the idea is to draw up vector files, as I did for the others, if anyone is interested in these. |
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| Author: | septic [ Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:03 pm ] |
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How did you get on with this? And can I ask the sizing of font you're using for each line, please? Also, how are ppl paint filling in engraving like this (without making a hash of the top face)??? |
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| Author: | TS826 [ Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog tag specs ? |
As of now, the characters I've drawn up are saved as Illustrator objects, rather than a legit Font file. You'll likely want to make some adjustments by hand afterward, but even if not, this should get almost all the way there. Line 2 (Large lettering): Tondo Font, from earlier Line 3 (Serial Number): As a base font, I used "AG Book Rounded-Regular" (then again made adjustments by hand). Line 1 was just drawn by hand as the other two fonts did not look correct. As for painting, I trimmed down the bristles of a tiny paint brush even further, and wiped off the tag after each letter. When done, I still had to (lightly) scrub off a couple areas. Edit: If you look close at the W, and to the right side of the number 3, you'll see a couple small spots of paint that faded, but still remain. |
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| Author: | septic [ Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:07 am ] |
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Thank you, very helpful. |
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