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 Post subject: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:11 pm 

Location: Chicago
I did know this at one time, but not any longer.
I'm hoping someone can list the measurements, thickness, and font used on the tags?

Searched the forum, but came up with nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:36 pm 
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Location: Portsmouth
Country: United Kingdom
Can I add to this request as well please and ask is the text just engraved, or is filled with white (which gets dirty), brown, black, gold(!)?
I've seen pictures that seem to show all of those colours but I've no idea what the original ones were.


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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:01 am 

Location: Chicago
I know the originals were engraved and filled with Brown Bess.


Edit:
Found the dimensions.
From the Propstore Auction...

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Dimensions (dog tags): 4.7 cm x 2.8 cm x 0.01 cm (2” x 1 ¼” x ¼”)
(dog tags on chain): 37.5 cm x 2.8 cm x 0.01 cm (14 ¾” x 1 ¼” x ¼”)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:55 am 
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Service Number: A04/TQ1.0.32156E1
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http://www.harryharris.com/dtcrowe.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:49 am 

Location: Chicago
Just as a clarification...
Considering the above quoted millimeter numbers do not equal the inch numbers, listed next to them, I've chatted with Propstore and was assured to go with the mm.
When converting to inches, for use in descriptions, they just round to the nearest quarter inch.

* Still searching for the correct font.


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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:21 pm 
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Location: Germany
IIRC, the font for name and rank is "Helvetica" while the serial number is "Helvetica Condensed Light".

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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:18 am 

Location: Chicago
Thanks for that.

- Helvetica Condensed
- Original
- Tondo, by daltonmaag.com

I think, with a little Kerning and Tracking, the second font might be a good choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:59 am 

Location: Chicago
Propstore Original:
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Film Original:
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What up with that ?
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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:14 am 

Location: USA
Service Number: A02/TQ0.0.52138E1
Country: United States
TS826 wrote:
Thanks for that.

- Helvetica Condensed
- Original
- Tondo, by daltonmaag.com

I think, with a little Kerning and Tracking, the second font might be a good choice.


The Helvetica whatchimacallit ends up looking like the Tondo when single line engraved with a rotary engraver, simply because of tool rotation.


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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:51 pm 

Location: Chicago
Good stuff to know.

I'm currently having tags made with a laser.
I ended up starting with the Tondo font, but by the time I was finished, I had ended up redrawing all the characters by hand.
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Now wondering about the "Pt." Versus "Pfc."
I know there were prototype dogtags, with the half circle edge, which were then changed to rounded rectangles.
So, it's curious if the Propstore tags were also on screen, or are they another prototype.


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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:00 pm 

Location: Chicago
The result.

Hand drawn letters/ numbers. (Almost have the whole alphabet finished)
Height / Width to exact specs of the Propstore measurements.
But did make them an 1/8 in. thick, as the propstore tags are apparently paper thin.

* Filled with actual #170 BB.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:57 pm 
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Service Number: A05/TQ2.0.32141E1
Country: United States
Were you using true type, post script or another font style type?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:20 pm 
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Location: Michigan
Service Number: A05/TQ2.0.92155E1
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TS826 wrote:
The result.

Hand drawn letters/ numbers. (Almost have the whole alphabet finished)
Height / Width to exact specs of the Propstore measurements.
But did make them an 1/8 in. thick, as the propstore tags are apparently paper thin.

* Filled with actual #170 BB.


That’s nice ! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Dog tag specs ?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 am 

Location: Chicago
I started with the "Tondo" True Type Font, but by the time I was finished, I ended up redrawing the characters by hand.
This resulted in the whole thing being a finished vector image, which was then laser engraved.

The Hudson tags are/ were a test piece.
Personally, I'm going with custom tags of my own...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:02 pm 
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Service Number: A05/TQ2.0.32141E1
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TS826 wrote:
I started with the "Tondo" True Type Font, but by the time I was finished, I ended up redrawing the characters by hand.
This resulted in the whole thing being a finished vector image, which was then laser engraved.

The Hudson tags are/ were a test piece.
Personally, I'm going with custom tags of my own...



So you built your own font?

After my preliminary research, if we can find no font like what is created, we may be well off to trademark things. Done properly, it can boost group visibility, and maybe get you some more business if you are selling things.

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