Ttaskmaster wrote:
knoxvilles_joker wrote:
The issue with the M69 was that although it did not stop weapons fire, it was good at stopping shrapnel and fragments from blasts. Its predecessor the M53 used in WWII was just about in the same boat and the M69 was an improvement based upon the original design.
As a side note - Even modern flak vests won't stop incoming rounds. Flak vests are designed to stop flak. Bullet-proof vests are designed to stop (certain calibres of) bullets. Same for the fragmentation helmets currently issued, especially since the original CONARC spec for 5.56mm included the requirement that it punches through a US steel helmet at 500yds.
Correct. Level 4 armor and blast proof armor is currently used to stop high caliber rounds. Lesser level ratings are used based upon need and expectations of the environment and ability to hide/fit underneath clothing.
I remember coworkers in the late 90s recounting tests on spiderweb based armor that could deflect 50 caliber rounds, only leaving a scorch mark. I think the issue with such an armor setup would be cost and ability to mass produce and that would probably be why we have not heard about it as of yet. That and the fact the trauma from impact would be just as likely to kill or severely wound.
The kicker right now is that Russian FPS showed a DU core .22LR round that could punch through 3 inch steel without issue. And there are kevlar tipped bullets. So armor is not an end all, it just lessens risk some. Such high end rounds are restricted to the military and police with few expceptions when folks can get paper work approved to own such things.
In the mechwarrior universe they had ablative laser armor. As far as what the future holds it is really hard to tell. I would say once laser weapons start becoming a thing the whole armor approach will change.
Regardless the armor in Aliens is very much an iconic thing. And also it was a unique creature of its time that has inspired so many things over the years. Speculating on the armor origins helps when you are trying to recreate an iconic item.
And thank you for the information as it is a very valid point to make here.