I for my self love that movie..., and I hope he will make
an other part..., but that's just me...
But I'm a guy, for me Alien3 ist the best Alien movie, so my
voice didn't count that much in this forum...
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| Author: | BenjaminJohnson [ Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Alien: Covenant |
Hi, What, no thread? WTF?Saw it over the weekend. My take: it's not as bad as Prometheus, but it's not as good as any of the Alien movies. Yes, that includes the ones past Aliens that we don't like to talk about.The basic premise is that it fits between Prometheus and Alien. It's very clearly an Alien movie, and it shows how Prometheus was actually a prequel, mostly via deus ex machina.The one thing it does is pretty solidly cement Ridley Scott as one of the masters of horror. What happens really is horrific. Not in a gore-fest kind of way (although there is a bit of that), but more in a "evil is a real thing and that's what it looks like" kind of way.Incidentally, it completely invalidates the Alien vs. Predator movies as canon--the timelines are completely wrecked.If you're a huge fan of the Alien series give it a watch. If your brain can't cope with Prometheus not making any sense, give it a watch also. Otherwise, catch it on Netflix or something.. Please help. I didn't find the right solution from the Internet. References:- https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic ... &t=1385235 Custom explainer video Thanks! |
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| Author: | Corp Hicks [ Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:46 pm ] |
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I for my self love that movie..., and I hope he will make an other part..., but that's just me... But I'm a guy, for me Alien3 ist the best Alien movie, so my voice didn't count that much in this forum...
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| Author: | SimonT [ Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:45 am ] |
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Like yourself, on a pure entertainment level, I thought it was OK but not as good as the earlier Alien films. *Warning - Below there be spoilers* However, speaking as a die-hard Aliens fan, I'm not sure I like all the different ways people can now get infected with aliens. And are they saying that David created the modern facehugger? And what was with the mini-alien chestburster, looked nothing like the one from the first film? Plus other plot holes too numerous to mention. My biggest bug bear is that Scott seems to think he can ignore all the other films, which were established canon. Scott may have directed the first film, but that doesn't mean it is his universe to do with as he please. That universe was created by writers Dan O'Bannon and Ron Sushet and belongs just as much to producer Walter Hill and fellow director James Cameron. My personal opinion is that Scott is disrespecting the fans of the original films with this self-indulgent fan-fiction of his and the fact that this film (apparently) performed worse than Alien 3 (after adjusting for inflation) speaks volumes. Perhaps he should look for ways to give fans what they want, and pull in general cinema goers. |
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| Author: | seven [ Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:50 pm ] |
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Simon T that was well said. "self-indulgent fan fiction" man I think this movie was so far from an ALIEN movie that it only crippled itself by trying to involve alien at all. It could have been the next new vision from Ridley but it had an identity crisis. part of me wonders if anyone originally intended it to be related to alien at all. then they just figured itd make more money if they feathered in a connection to alien. It could have been this insane fear fest based on genetics and people playing god. I think I would have liked it a lot if i wasnt spending every second trying to come up with an equation to explain why it contradicts everything I know about alien. WHAT IF, it was just a completely different franchise that sort of crossed over into the alien universe. like how some people think blade runner is in the same universe. I'd have liked that. They were really reaching for a connection here instead of just letting go and letting it be its own damn thing. just let go and make a good movie. Then let Blomkamp do what should have been done with ALIEN. |
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| Author: | Space Jockey [ Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Alien: Covenant |
Space Jockey creates Xenomorph weapon of war Engineer recreates Xenomorph weapon of war (stolen technology) Engineer vs. Space Jockey Engineer creates Human Human creates Android Android kills Human Android recreates Xenomorph Space Jockey recreates Human (Biomechanic) Human (Biomechanic) destroys Android Space Jockey destroys Engineer Human gets the hell outta Dodge Job Done |
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| Author: | Corp Hicks [ Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:03 pm ] |
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Please, no Blomkamp bullshit..., Hicks is dead, get over it...! |
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| Author: | seven [ Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:01 am ] |
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touche |
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| Author: | Big Stew [ Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:49 pm ] |
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He alive according to colonial marines that's meant to be cannon no mater how stupid that is. |
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| Author: | Annaa [ Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:44 am ] |
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part of me wonders if anyone originally intended it to be related to alien at all. then they just figured itd make more money if they feathered in a connection to alien. |
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| Author: | xeno1 [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:16 pm ] |
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I am one who actually enjoyed both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant, for what they were. While nowhere near the original Alien or Aliens, I felt they were both entertaining and of course, beautifully shot films. Ridley is a master at visuals. While there are certainly issues with the stories, and I'm a huge Alien fan, I'm still able to shut down and just enjoy the movies. I actually do hope he's able to do the rest to lead up to Alien. Seeing the original Juggernaut crash or land on LV-426 and how it began for the original Alien would be pretty cool. Like where the hell did all the eggs come from. And clearly, the engineer had a burster in him, is that what laid the eggs? Still a lot to answer. |
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| Author: | retrogarde [ Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:26 am ] |
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viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15715&hilit=Covenant Just a quick note: if you use the search function you will find this nine page thread with hundreds of comments on Alien Covenant. There's a build thread too for those guns (not my cup of tea but to each their own). We discussed it and moved on I guess... |
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