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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:14 pm 
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*UPDATE*
The v2.0 "handy dandy 1-page master checklist" is uploaded and ready to print. (3/11/15)
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Has your hunting for parts ever spiraled out of control leaving you wondering, "Where will it end? When will I stop?"
The easy answer is "When I have it ALL!!!" So here is how we will track it.

Below is a list (which will be updated as new info is presented) of EVERY "found object" used in Aliens. This is not an 'overall prop' list, as I am not including components that were 'scratch/custom' built. I am only compiling 'real world' items that might theoretically be found floating around out there.

If you feel there is an error, if something needs clarification, or if something is missing, PLEASE CHIME IN!!! In addition to being reference tool, it would be great if this could spur solutions to the last of the unsolved mysteries.

*(Virtually ALL this info can be found on existing threads in this forum. I did not include citation links within the list because there was just sooo much material, but if a dispute occurs or if a citation is requested I will def be adding the links as the thread evolves.)

Anyways, on to the list:

Basic Helmet Parts
M1 "Steel Pot" US Army helmet
Beyerdynamic HM 560 Microphone
Pentax Auto 110 18mm Camera lens
ITEX safety Ear Defender
Vietnam era Army Helmet band (more Tan colored and over-sized compared to modern ones)

Boots = US Army OD "Jungle Boots" (Vabrim sole.  Highly likely they were reproductions & not originals)

Pulse Rifle Parts
M1A1 Thompson
SPAS 12 parts (cage and slide)
Remington 870 Express 12g. Shotgun

Motion Tracker Parts
Kango 426 Hammer Drill
Hama Slide Viewer B101/3642
Matchbox Power unit/Transformer (from PowerTrack 2000+)
Jobo minilux Dark-room Lamp (model 6415 or 6410)
Hama Self Timer model# 5401
Case to Hama Self Timer ^
Vivitar 2500 Thyristor Flash Unit Parts
Hama Remote #39402
Olympus T28 Calculator Panel (Ideally 50mm)
Casio SL-85 calculator number panel (SL-80 can work in a pinch, but it is wider and barely fits)
Assess brand sphygmomanometer inner pump widget
Mesh from Superswitch intruder alarm box
Bisley/Webley & Scott German Sling Swivels
Plastruct model part# 95936 LF-316 gas lamp bits (connect to 1/4 vinyl tubing that connects viewer to body)
Unknown rotary switch (varies even on actual props)
*Many fun details/discoveries on Noble's post here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15937.
*Great tutorial from Hyperdyne labs here: http://www.hyperdynelabs.com/mt/construct/

Flame Thrower Parts
M16 M203 variant barrel vent
M16A1 Parts (receiver(s),carry handle)
Hanson Mfg. Co. '4-HK' series hydraulic quick connect (rear knob)

Smart Gun Parts
MG42 Machine gun
Kawasaki Struts/bracket from AR-125
Kawasaki Switch box from KZ750 / GPZ750 (depending on model)
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Edison Giocattali Secret Agent 3-in-1 Gun (formed the battery)
Mono Jack plugs (completed the 'battery')
76 Husqvarna Magura clutch lever perch
*See M56 Smart One's post for most recent details here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14382&start=100

Smart Gun headset Parts
Beyerdynamic HM560 Headset w/mic
T28 Macro Flash unit w/ connector swivel 
Hasbro G1 Megatron Scope (just 'mount' section & 'ribbed' section
Pentax 110 Auto 18mm lens 
Blue Ring from Vivitar 2500 Thyristor Flash Unit
Lemo Connector (FFA.2C.306.CLAC42 or FFA.2C.310.CLAC52. unknown if it was the 6-pin or 10-pin version)
Neutrik connectors (male end being the 'red' end power connector type. *Now illegal for power to run through neutrik connectors, so red ends are rare)
Plastruct gas lamp bit (knob on camera housing)

Smart gun arm/vest = 3A Stedicam Rig

Sentry Guns Parts
Gridcase Compass II 1139 Laptop
MG42 machine gun ("smartguns" inside the assembly)
Brittish Larkspur A41 VHF radio (Appears as the "battery")
Hasagawy 1/72 Leopold WWII Rail gun model kit (made the Body)
Neutrik connectors (battery and gun cables)
WW1 era Maxim LMG 08/15 drum magazine

Belt tools = Edison Giocattoli "Secret Agent" 3-in-1 Pellet Gun 
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Shoulder Lamp Parts
"Superswitch" Intruder Alarm Box
Handle from Technisub La Spirotechnique diving lamp
Reflecta 3002 Video Lighting Lamp

Hand Welder Parts
Interlas Tig Torch (121 or 301)
Hama 5507 Camera Grip /remote
Plastruct gas lamp bit (center button under nozzle)

Hudson's knife = Explorer MM-IV (Gerber mk2 "clone")
Full details about why it is not a Gerber Mk2 seen here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15254

Standard issue Knife = "Scalemead Survival" (but more commonly found as "Explorer Night Raider" with blackened blade)

Standard issue Headset = Racal Minilite

Drop Ship Helmet Parts
SPH4-A  (not the "B", that has 2x knobs)
Hasbro G1 Megatron part (Silencer/barrel extension connector)
Belvin "Schrader" style pump connectors (green ones)
Hama 3525 cables (old style with clear plastic coating. New ones have no clear covers)
Several parts from "guts" of a Polaroid 635CL (and/or similar models)
Parts from old polaroid 635CL Camera (other similar models may owrk, details in links below)
Countless scale model parts.  Best found here (page 34): 
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3128&p=98412&hilit=rAF+mk+flying+dropship#p98412
and here (page 3) http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=128597&page=3


Flak Jacket (worn by Drake & Dropship Crew) = M69 Flak Vest

Drop ship crew Flight Suit = Royal Air Force Mk 11 Flying suit

Basic OD Cap (worn by Frost, Drake, & Gorman) = OG106 or OG507 hot weather cap

Officer Jacket = M65 Field Jacket (modified)

Hicks' Lighter = Savanna Bronica SF-20 oil Lighter/w case
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Hack Pouch Parts
Seiko Pulsmeter 'sensors'
numerous unknown/unconfirmed bits

Standard Issue marine watch = Seiko Pulsemeter S234-5000 (S234-5010 same but with black buttons)
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Locator watch = Also Seiko Pulsemeter ^ but completely blacked out and face mostly covered.

Ripley's watch = Seiko 7A28-7000

Burke's watch = Seiko H556-5050

Bishop's watch =  Seiko 7A28-6000

Hudson's Eagle Bolo tie = unknown actual brand, common enough with multiple makers

Vasquez's bandana = Fast Color Elephant trunk up (Red)

Standard issue Sidearm = H&K VP-70M    ("Z" [civilian] version lacks thumb contour on grip)

Vasquez's Sidearm = S&W M39 (w/custom ivory grips)

Hicks' Shotgun = Ithaca 37  12guage Shotgun (Cut down 'hunting' version with German MP40 grip attached)

Marine Locker Widget
Dixons Solar 7 calculator
Unidentified PC disk port & other unconfirmed/unknown items

Armory weapons (background, very little if any screen time)
SA80 (Ideally the L85A1.   The A2 version has a different scope mount)
M16A1
Colt "Commando" (Short barrel varient of CAR-15)
Lewis Light Machine gun (stock, magazine, and barrel cover all removed)
Arwen 37 riot gun ("Boom stick" seen in background on Drop ship)



Colony Flashlight (carried by Bishop & Ripley) = Multi function flashlight (Exact model unknown). Harry Harris referred to them as originally '4 in 1' lights, but several 5-in-1 and 6-in-1 lights are nearly identical. Candidates include:
-'Signal SA-100 6 function light'
-'Brinkmann' "Trouble shooter" (details see here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15610&hilit=brinkmann+light)
-'GE' made a very similar one, but with 'ribbed' ends (For details see: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15056)
-'Uniross' brand light is identical to the 'GE' version with ribbed ends


Frost "dump bag"/Deitrich Med bag = Simrad (LP7/LE7?) Rangefinder bag

Ripley gear bag = Haversack S6 Respirator bag

Apone's Binoculars = Fero D-51/BM8028

Airlock release = Ferguson Telivision

Bishop/Ripley Shoes = Reebok "Bug stompers"/"Aliens Fighters"/"Alien Stompers" (Ripley had unreleased "boot" version, Bishop had regular high top) BB6600?

Padding inside armor = 80s era Dutch army sleeping mat

Hadley's Hope Door switch/set dressings = Superwitch Alarm box 6000

Vasquez's boots = French "Ranger" boots (for details see: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15158)

Mess hall Cosmos Gyroscope = Westminster 2871 Revolving Cosmos Perpetual Motion Desktop Toy

Vid-Com in Ripley's apartment
-50mm Pantex lens
-Realistic Electret Microphone
-Quintrix Video Monitor - Colour TV TC-1100GN (also used for colony TVs)

Salvage Crew items
-Technisub lamp (same used on shoulder lamps)

Ripley's Leather Jacket = "Wested" brand leather bomber jacket. (Although modern Wested "Ripley Jackets" have been critisized at not being accurate despite the same company making and marketing them)

Dietrich's caduceus pin (on helmet) = US Army vietnam era "Nurse" pin insignia




**See top of post for latest version of 'printable checklist'**

So what else am I missing???

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:15 pm 
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(Using this spot as the "Unsolved Mystery" section)


What other items are almost certainly "real world" found items, but have yet to be discovered?

-The 45 degree connector on the smartgun headset from the stalk to the coiled cable?
-Newt's Doll Head?
-The calculator screen in the hack kit?
-The disc port on the lockers?
-Vid screen 'housing' from Ripley's apartment and Colony dressing?
-Specific VCR parts on Cryo Chamber?
-Briefcase for Bishop's Remote terminal?
-Sentry Gun Camera?
-Rotary switch on 'stunt' trackers?
-Exact Grenade box (MTM boxes VERY similar, but the 12 guage MTM box has the wrong clasp & the 20 gauge has the right clasp but is too small to fit grenades. Actual exact model unlikely to be same as currently available models of of MTM boxes.)
-Salvage Crew gas masks?
-Salvage Crew Suits (recycled from "Outlander" film, but recycled from what? :wink: )
-Vid Com tone dialer? (Theorized it may be same as on Hudson's Hack pouch?)

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This. This is sooo helpful, thanks so much. Most of this I had to find out for myself, you're making it real easy for project starters.
Granted, though...the hard part is finding it all. :P


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Awesome!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:10 pm 

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[quote="bigbisont"]So what am I missing???[/quote]

How about the colony flashlight?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:17 pm 
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Feide wrote:
bigbisont wrote:
So what am I missing???


How about the colony flashlight?


AH! Of course! Updated.
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Has Newt's doll ever been ID'd?

And didnt the grenade start as a snap cap before they machines extra details into it?


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You should update the Smartgun checklist. The front control switch is actually more commonly used on a Kawasaki KZ750, not the GPZ750.

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A few more:

Airlock release
Ferguson television

Apone's Binoculars
Fero D-51/BM8028

Armor
Dutch sleeping mat

Bishop's Shoes
Aliens Fighter Shoe/Alien Stompers (modded BB6600s?)

Hadley's Hope Door Switch
Superswitch Intruder Alarm Catalogue Number 6000 (version with smaller grill)

Helmet
Beyerdynamic M560 microphone (from Headmicrophone HM 560)

Hypersleep Chamber
VCR parts

Motion Tracker
Bisley/Webley & Scott/German sling swivels

Sentry Gun
Main body from Hasegawa 1/72 Leopold WWII railgun model kit (on battery)
Neutrik connector x2 (on battery and gun)
WWI-era Maxim LMG 08/15 machine gun drum magazine

Smart Gun Battery
Edison Giocattoli Secret Agent 3 in 1 Gun
Mono jack plug x2

Smart Gun Headset
Lemo connector
Neutrik connector

Mysteries
Bishop's terminal
Motion Tracker rotary switch thingy (on stunt versions)
Sentry Gun camera lens

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How about the Dietrich/Frost bag and the bag Ripley carries at the end.

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How about the Dietrich/Frost bag and the bag Ripley carries at the end.


Noble said the Dietrich/Frost bag was a Simrad (LP7/LE7?) rangefinder bag. Ripley's was an S6/S10 respirator bag.

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You should update the Smartgun checklist. The front control switch is actually more commonly used on a Kawasaki KZ750, not the GPZ750.


Cool. The list up top is updated. I'll do a full 2.0 checklist after the thread has some time to breath and get a big chunk of updates.

That is a great point about something that was thought to have been figured out long ago. The GPZ 750 switch has been accepted as 'it' but it is true that the KZ750 switch appears to be more accurate. They are VERY similar but the KZ has a gray square button at the top corner as opposed to the red toggle switch.

It should be noted that the KZ750 has had a couple different versions with different switches, so some digging for the correct one will be required.

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You collected some pretty useful list for us all! Friggin outstanding job there!!!

May I run a Print of it?

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To be fair.... I think the switchgear for the Smart Gun could be either, depending on the year/model of the motorbike in question.

The only reason I say this is this is the one I got for mine (I damned well hope it's the right one, otherwise I'm going to look really silly!).
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That was off a 1983 GPZ750.

There does seem to be a number of slight variations for the same bikes, as no doubt they made small revisions during the model production runs.


Might be worth adding pictures to the ultimate guide. They do paint a thousand words.

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To be fair.... I think the switchgear for the Smart Gun could be either, depending on the year/model of the motorbike in question.

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Might be worth adding pictures to the ultimate guide. They do paint a thousand words.


Great to know. I just knew I got a GPZ one last year that turned out to be the 'wrong' one.

Pics would def be great, but there is a 5 or 6 pic limit per post, so I didn't bother as I wouldn't get very far into the list with pics in that first post! But absolutely, if anything is in doubt, dispute, or has variations then pics are key. Thanks for posting this one.

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I think if you 'hotlink' to something like photo bucket or flickr you can probably just keep on going.

I'm sure some of my posts have been pretty 'image heavy' and I link all mine to PhotoBucket.

The only thing with it, is you have to leave that album in place, otherwise all the links break. Especially annoying on the older threads.

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Chef wrote:
I think if you 'hotlink' to something like photo bucket or flickr you can probably just keep on going.

I'm sure some of my posts have been pretty 'image heavy' and I link all mine to PhotoBucket.

The only thing with it, is you have to leave that album in place, otherwise all the links break. Especially annoying on the older threads.


I used to do that with photobucket on all my posts too but it seemed like every time I compiled a list such as this with linked images people would say I should have direct uploaded everything (exactly as you said, so the info wouldn't be lost down the line if something happened to my album), so I have fallen out of the habit of using photobucket (for the record, every album I previously linked to is still in tact!).

I guess in this case 'linked images' is preferable to 'no images' so I'll see what I can do about clearing up any gray areas with image support up top.

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Once the list feels really complete we could all contribute photos and make five composite images to upload. All the SG parts, all the MT parts, stuff Marines carry, etc.

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Once the list feels really complete we could all contribute photos and make five composite images to upload. All the SG parts, all the MT parts, stuff Marines carry, etc.


Ah good idea. A good group project. I guess until then I will just run a "hybrid" of uploads, linked images and linked entire threads and just see how it goes.

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Add the pics to the pdf download file?

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The smartgun switchgear was used on the KZ750 and the GPZ750. I can tell you with certainty though, that it was more standard on the KZ750 (trust me, I've looked at thousands of them for the past year)...but yes, it was also part of the GPZ750, though the GPZ750 more commonly had a red switch where the flat black button is (I have two incorrect switch plates because I just bought the standard GPZ750 ones...they are not correct).

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M56 Smart One wrote:
The smartgun switchgear was used on the KZ750 and the GPZ750. I can tell you with certainty though, that it was more standard on the KZ750 (trust me, I've looked at thousands of them for the past year)...but yes, it was also part of the GPZ750, though the GPZ750 more commonly had a red switch where the flat black button is (I have two incorrect switch plates because I just bought the standard GPZ750 ones...they are not correct).


I have noted it and gone and included your actual thread under that notation. Hope its cool I grabbed a pic of your correct KZ one there as reference in the body up top.

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Add the pics to the pdf download file?

That could work too. I was hoping to keep the download as a "quick reference" kind of check list (ideally 1 page even, but that is gonna be hard to do already!), but if it spirals out of control up there I could def just do a full blown pic filled PDF as well.


OH, and great stuff QUARAX! I love the detail freaks!

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Of course it's totally cool with me if you pull photos from my thread!

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