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 Post subject: USCM Id Key Cards.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:29 am 
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Was wondering if anyone has ever produced these. I am currently working on a project that an item such as this would help to complete a wonderful presentation piece.

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It's just an idea that I thought would be better tested on the A.L. first. Certainly, one of you gents have already knocked these out. :D

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:52 am 
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Hey Tom

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:09 pm 
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Do you mean the com card used by Carter Burker or the CAC card used by AL member?
The comm card of Burke is not made/sold on a regular basis, but I know a person in Germany that could make cards like this on demand.

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I think Tommin is referring to a comment from the prop maker Terry. On the DVD's there's a reference to cards the Marines would use to access the lockers (and how the prop's lights were rigged to blink or something when the cards were inserted). This detail isn't ever shown on screen and honestly I'm at a loss to where the Marines would keep them when they've just gotten out of cryo and only have their skivvies on! It would almost make more sense if their dogtags accessed it, but it isn't the right shape.

So ignoring the argument above, I think shapewise the "front loading logic card" Burke leaves with Ripley might me the way to go. Like the Marine's tags it is clear plastic, and it could also be used to access the "VidCom" stations we see in the Sulcao's hangar bay.

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Can't imagine it would be any different to the standard military ID's the troops have these days

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:02 am 
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577_ops wrote:
Do you mean the com card used by Carter Burker or the CAC card used by AL member?
The comm card of Burke is not made/sold on a regular basis, but I know a person in Germany that could make cards like this on demand.


Please forgive my ignorance on the CAC card as I have been out of the loop, so to speak, on the latest of ALIENS related greatness. Familiar with the Carter Burke card though. Would be nice to see what is already out there before even considering taking a shot at something like this myself.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:14 am 
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...and honestly I'm at a loss to where the Marines would keep them when they've just gotten out of cryo and only have their skivvies on!...


Agreed, but in theoretical application, it is a keyless entry panel with a keyed master. The marines could key code in to gain access to their gear once out of cryo-sleep. After an excursion, or even in the event of injury or death, a partner could access their locker with the key card that they have stored within their BDU's. This would be so that the patient or family of the deceased could retrieve any personal items or photographs. The XO could also perform random locker searchers with a master key card without knowing personal combination settings.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:52 am 
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577_ops wrote:
Do you mean the com card used by Carter Burker or the CAC card used by AL member?
The comm card of Burke is not made/sold on a regular basis, but I know a person in Germany that could make cards like this on demand.


Please forgive my ignorance on the CAC card as I have been out of the loop, so to speak, on the latest of ALIENS related greatness. Familiar with the Carter Burke card though. Would be nice to see what is already out there before even considering taking a shot at something like this myself.


With CAC card I was refering to this:
http://forum.alienslegacy.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12749&hilit=USCM+card

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The XO could also perform random locker searchers with a master key card without knowing personal combination settings.


Very good points. The keypad solves the "fresh out of cryo" argument, while a key card would allow for universal access.

What size were you imagining Tommin? We also have Dallas' "key" from Alien (and Amanda's in Isolation) that could be a useful guide.

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Just a thought...instead of a magnetic strip, how about some sort of holographic foil?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:00 pm 
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there is talk of making member ID cards similar to what you get when you are in the 501st.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:47 am 
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Gwen wrote:
OK here is draft number 3. I completely redrew the screamin eagle and the colonial marines seal myself in Illustrator. Hopefully you guys like this:

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I would so welcome this here. Outstanding! Thanks for the heads up 577_Ops. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:38 pm 
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Gwen made these IDs in the past.
I have both USCM and UKCM versions and they are great. Other version have also been made.
I see you found the topic on this Tom.
Perhaps if Gwen is no longer making them Melissa/Moosh could step in.

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I'll be honest, I never liked Gwen's ID cards. They felt too busy and 'clipart' for my liking. I always imagined the marine ID cards (if they had them) would be much more minimal in design, like Burke's card.

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I feel like the basic shape and material of the Burke card would be best, but with the USCM delta and information like the dog tags. It is tricky to not end up exceeding the minimalist style of Aliens honestly, so I'd argue the less cluttered the better (like Mantroon said).

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:53 am 
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You've got a third for the "minimalist" design. I'm thinking etched acrylic with as mentioned before by retrogarde the USCM delta and other information.


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Playing around with it, based off Burke's card

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:14 pm 
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Just a thought, what if there was a rasterized likeness of the actor on the card via laser cutter?

Might be too small though...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:24 pm 
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Just a thought, what if there was a rasterized likeness of the actor on the card via laser cutter?

Might be too small though...


I would say move the name and service number to the left more and have the picture next to that on the right, under the delta?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:40 pm 
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Sure.

Could also be a little larger than the burke card, but have the same shape.

Burke's was more business card than ID.


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Would the rasterized image look like the one of Hicks in Alien3?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:41 pm 
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"Would the rasterized image look like the one of Hicks in Alien3?"

Here's an example I found on the net:
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(the little bubbling areas are misc residue that wipes off)

Looking good Troon!

If you laser cut the card,and raster the image, how about the type? Probably screen print like Burke's...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:57 pm 
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Now, THAT's what I'm talking about. Absolutely gorgeous. :D

The example key card shown in the beginning is an electronic pool access key card. It's kind of like a typical hotel room key. So the dimensions are very similar to a standard credit card, only a little thicker.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:40 am 
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So cool, when i was serving it was always surname first on everything


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