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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:41 pm 
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Hi all - Absolutely no luck trying to ID these bands... I am beginning to think they were made for the film...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:02 pm 
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It maaaay exist. This image has one that looks the part. It doesnt look any larger than a modern one, however. It does have the ribs, but doesn't appear to be any bigger/wider than regular one.

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Then there is this curious case. This is CLEARLY labeled as a "replica" helmet. It is NOT vintage in any way. The headband is damn close. The WRONG COLOR! But every other aspect is similar. One would assume the band is a replica of something that existed as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Collectable ... 58c3e00ff3

(posting of this link is within the forum rules as it is a "buy it now" auction with multiple items available).


So might be a world war 2 helmet band. If so...I would imagine time has not been kind to cotton fibers and even if we found one, it may not survive any actual use.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:46 pm 
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Hmm, that looks good!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:08 pm 
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I used a old british helmet cover. I removed the elastic bands that it made about three USCM after it was removed.

here is an example. Note this is a Gulf War version but you get the idea.

https://www.varusteleka.com/pictures/1508.jpg

Here is my helmet using the banding off the cover.

https://www.yourprops.com/USCM-helmet-r ... P8027.html


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:20 am 
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I wanted to go back to this cos now I have looked at the screen used ones closer I was unhappy with mine! The one chef found on ebay is the one we have been using over here for a while, and is the one on my helmet in the avatar, it's passable but way too wide, After reading Stephen's post I got to thinking and I was at a militaria fair so I picked up a couple of Brit army desert covers, this is what I came up with. It's about the right width, right colour, and has the linear weave to it, it's slightly thin but I can live with that. good call dude!

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Nice, did you just unstitch the elastic ... erm lattice thingie from a MK6 helmet cover (or is it from a different part of the cover)?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:50 am 
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just unstiched the lattice and then shortened the longest one of the bits by about an inch or so and sewed it together, there is enough other parts to join together and make at least one more band

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:50 am 
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The british army desert helm covers work also well for me.
I notice that Size "Small" fits well for both Spat and Rob's helmets.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:49 pm 
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bigbisont wrote:
Personally, I run this band ("khaki" option) and cut the glowing 'cat eyes' off it. It isn't as wide, but I think it looks the part and the price was right.


Good catch. Saved to watch list. ha


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Was there ever a dead on match found?

Also just noticed that the helmet camera close up shows the band details well-

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:13 pm 
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No... I'm wondering if they were made for the film or a batch of non US / UK bands were used... But to my knowledge they've not been exactly matched...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:19 pm 
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Indeed. Lots of "close" but nothing 100% ID match.

I've decided to address this issue myself by going Apone/Ski style. (no band at all!)


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Are we even sure they were actually helmet bands and not some other kind of strapping/fabric?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:24 am 
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Not that this helps much, but I just finished reorganizing all of my USCM gear and had forgotten that I had a handful of these:

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I had picked these up at a military surplus store somewhere out-of-state while on vacation. They had M1 helmets as well, dating from the late 1970's to the mid 1980's. It was all from the same acquisition lot as I remember being told, so it's fair to say the helmet bands ranged from those years as well. All of which had the cats eyes sewn in back.

Although not khaki in color, I did happen to find one in the lot that appeared to have a similar ribbed pattern (9/16" or 14mm wide) as the one we are trying to identify, along with a 1979-dated M1 helmet & shin strap (3/4" or 18mm wide):

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Same shot but without the flash:

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The elastic band is definitely too narrow, and has too many ribs -- but aside from color, the chin strap appears to be dead-on. It even has the exact same number of stitched ribs.

Just more food for thought.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:59 am 
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1979 M1 chin strap size and pattern compared with screen-used elastic band:

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Again, aside from not being khaki in color or elastic, the width and ribbing pattern is like a 95% visual match.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:45 pm 
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Well, here's mine...

This is some straight elastic.
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Needs a little bit of ageing, but I don't think it's all that far off. Maybe a bit wide, and too many ribs, but I'm happy enough.

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After all these years did we get any further with this? Has anyone found any ground breaking stuff to identify the bands?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:29 pm 
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This recent Prop Store photo of Frost's helmet shows the band clearly.

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Thanks Moosh that is a nice image... I wonder why they put the band under the cover?

Also have you noticed... it looks like the ITEX has been sprayed green when the helmet chin strap was laid over part of it... you can see the grey colour underneath...

Has the FROST helmet been sold? Pity it didn’t have a BEYERDYNAMIC in there...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:26 pm 
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Moosh89 wrote:
This recent Prop Store photo of Frost's helmet shows the band clearly.



I actually had a different take on that. I agree it could be the helmet band material, but I thought it looked like they sewed up the elastic on the gap for the ear defender with the same elastic to keep it tight. I believe they just have it on the outside where it should be tucked in behind the defender. The ear defender probably came off at some point and they forgot to re-tuck it behind prior to re-installation of the ear defender.

That was my assumption anyways. If true, it could be an indication that the helmet band material was elastic off a roll, and not a found item at all (unless you consider the original roll of material, of course)


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If true, it could be an indication that the helmet band material was elastic off a roll, and not a found item at all (unless you consider the original roll of material, of course)


Vasquez has a very similar band around her arms (biceps), but I haven't confirmed if it is the same material or not.

Edit: Looks very close in size and knit, but different colour, more of a bone/ivory colour. But perhaps if it is the same elastic, the helmet bands could have been distressed/aged. Some do appear darker/dirtier between helmets.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:41 am 

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it looks like the ITEX has been sprayed green when the helmet chin strap was laid over part of it...

I believe that might in fact be an intentional continuation of the camo.


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In Australia, I did a batch of bands made from nude braided 12mm elastic. Some batches are a bit darker but you can soak them in tea and add some weathering to darken.

https://www.spotlightstores.com/sewing- ... 41196-nude


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