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Author:  Kelly.S645 [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:45 pm ]
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Found the case used for the movie prop for £5 so set about converting it and here's were I'm at what you guys think ?

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Author:  schotti [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:30 pm ]
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Hey there Thats Cool.I've been looking for One them but no luck so far.Like i Said verry Cool.Looking pretty good so far :D

Regards.

Neil

Author:  tbwilly [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:49 pm ]
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Very nice case I love

Author:  Noble [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:55 pm ]
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They are very common to find:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/740493 ... lastic-red


Looks good, my only suggestion is the type should be bigger.

https://thepropstop.wordpress.com/2011/ ... om-aliens/

Author:  Kelly.S645 [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:04 pm ]
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Yeah I gave the size to my mate and he made them a little small but I like it to be a ikle bit different. Same with my grenades as I don't have a straight knerl

Author:  Strikah [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:46 am ]
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Wish someone made cheaper grenades out of metal so i could buy 25 to fill a box. Only find them for 25 bucks each so far

Author:  retrogarde [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:00 pm ]
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They are bottom up so you can always fill it up with Snap Caps.

Author:  Strikah [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:39 pm ]
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Good idea! I think ill do that :)

Author:  bigbisont [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:51 pm ]
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Yet another idea to steal and a project to start. At least this one seems to be quite a bit more manageable on the old wallet! :P

Author:  ObiHahn [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:53 pm ]
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bigbisont wrote:
Yet another idea to steal and a project to start. At least this one seems to be quite a bit more manageable on the old wallet! :P


Seconded, I will try and do that little prop replica as well. :)

Author:  Kelly.S645 [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:02 pm ]
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That's a great idea to fill it up thanks and i will find the details of the case if anyone wants ? As some of you said it's a nice cheep prop to go with my display stand I'm making for my PR

Author:  retrogarde [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:00 am ]
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Now you just need Derrick Baena's PR manual!

Author:  Kelly.S645 [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:21 pm ]
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As promised here is the case next to my PR and stand I made

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Author:  bigbisont [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:46 pm ]
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Noble wrote:
They are very common to find:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/740493 ... lastic-red


Looks good, my only suggestion is the type should be bigger.

https://thepropstop.wordpress.com/2011/ ... om-aliens/



quick question for anyone 'in the know' The case in that link is for 20 gauge shells

Was that link chosen simply because the box was red in the picture (like the real prop) or is there a reason the 20 is preferable to a 12?

Author:  Kelly.S645 [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:36 pm ]
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With some deep research the grenades in the movie are 12 gauge blank that were turned/modified. A lot of people think it's 20 gauge as the grande size is referred as 30mm (no were near 12 gauge size) a fact just "ignored " by the prop makers :). Oh and if you look at the prop in harry harris collection it is the 12 gauge box in forest green and then painted

Author:  robedavies [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:29 pm ]
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Kelly.S645 wrote:
With some deep research the grenades in the movie are 12 gauge blank that were turned/modified. A lot of people think it's 20 gauge as the grande size is referred as 30mm (no were near 12 gauge size) a fact just "ignored " by the prop makers :). Oh and if you look at the prop in harry harris collection it is the 12 gauge box in forest green and then painted


Show off :)

Author:  Quarax [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:45 am ]
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Apparently, the screen-used box (or boxes) was an MTM Case Gard S25: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2065

You can buy a red one here: http://www.guns.gb.com/contents/en-uk/d ... boxes.html

Author:  robedavies [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:48 pm ]
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Hi

Just found this;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/MTM-round-Shots ... shell+Case

Author:  bigbisont [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:37 pm ]
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Quarax wrote:
Apparently, the screen-used box (or boxes) was an MTM Case Gard S25: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2065

You can buy a red one here: http://www.guns.gb.com/contents/en-uk/d ... boxes.html


Well, the S-25 comes in 2 varieties. The S25-20 and the S25-12. Still comes around to the 20 gauge vs 12 gauge box.

BUT I think it truly is the 20. Yes, 12 gauge shotgun used had grenades made from some type of snap cap, but I read up on the 20 gauge box and the specs do say it can hold 12 gauge shells (it is just a little snugger fit). Looking at the pic of the screen used box, besides the red color, look at the bottom 'lip' on the clasp.

The screen used prop and 20g versions have the 2 'prongs' on the bottom lip. The 12 gauge box (S25-12) has a wider clasp area and only the one center 'prong' area on the bottom. The 20g looks like a better match to me. I'll update when I get mine in hand.

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Author:  robedavies [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:45 pm ]
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I have just ordered the MTM 25 round Shotshell Box 10 or 12 Gauge

Author:  Quarax [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:31 pm ]
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Here's some other places selling them for pretty cheap:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00008S2520
http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/product ... s-Red.html
http://www.opticsplanet.com/mtm-shotshe ... p-top.html

Author:  Kelly.S645 [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:46 pm ]
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This is what I love about this site the wealth of knowledge and willingness to help others :) thanks for your comments and i may look a bit closer next time.

Author:  Quarax [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:09 am ]
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I just realized that the one Noble posted was already the correct one, whoops.

Author:  bigbisont [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:39 am ]
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FYI/alert!

The website that said the 20g box could hold 12g shells lied! The 20 is too small for 12g shells and SD grenades. They don't fit.

Even if the clasp/color on the 20 were more accurate, if you plan on actually keeping grenades in there you actually probably are better off with the 12 version

Author:  bigbisont [ Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:19 am ]
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Messing around with this old project. Figured I'd bump this old thread. (for 'found item' purposes. 'replica purposes' are as fine as they will get)

In short, while the modern plastic shotshell boxes are affordable and easy to find, they are not likely correct. (at least not the MTM "Case-gard" series).

The 20g and 12g each have screen accurate aspects, but neither is a dead on match (at least not in their modern form).

Basically:
-The 12g modern could never be 'correct' because the ridge on the top is right on the edge, the top half is too tall, and the bottom portion of the clasp has no indentations. All 3 are not screen accurate.
-The 20g has the right offset on the 'ridge' around the top, has the screen accurate clasp indentation, is red like the screen used prop, but is clearly too small and can't hold the snap caps of the 12g 870 that was used. Proportions are clearly all off.

So 80s plastic shotshell boxes (same brand in earlier version or completely different brand)... Anyone have them?

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