The Aliens Legacy
http://forum.alienslegacy.com/

Do we need another armor vendor?
http://forum.alienslegacy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14335		 Page 1 of 2
Author:  joeranger [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Do we need another armor vendor?
Spent some time with the Anovos guys at C2E2 while in my kit bashed armor.
They have access to Terry English molds and are thinking about reproducing USCM armor.
I told them I would love to see it done but did not think there is a big enough market to support it.
It seems like there are two groups of marines in our community. Those that have armor and those that wish they had it but can't afford it.
I felt bad but I respect what they are trying to do. I want them to succeed in business.

Attachments:
aliens anovos.jpg
aliens anovos.jpg [ 68.96 KiB | Viewed 8345 times ]
Author:  gman666 [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
I agree no. I do not believe there is a big enough market to cover licence, tooling, workforce, and marketing. I would also question the Terry English molds. Maybe they meant access to screen used armor. This is just my opinion.

Thanks!

Greg
Author:  nocternus [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:51 pm ]
Post subject: 
Plus Anovos are not known for being cheap
Author:  gman666 [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:56 pm ]
Post subject: 
I know they have Star Trek and now Star Wars. Our group does not even come close number wise. The price would have to be high for a quality set.

Thanks!

Greg
Author:  Scapey [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:57 pm ]
Post subject: 
A red flag went up with me, too, when I heard "Terry English moulds".

John Riddell's original Alien War suits were made from moulds, cast from a screen-used set worn by Dietrich.
But there's no such thing as "Original Terry English moulds". I'm interested myself to hear what Terry has to say about this.

That said, Anovos do tend to make good stuff - I just hope that their moving into the Aliens market doesn't cause trouble for Spat and Chef!
Author:  ROCKET MAN [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
We have Chef who lives 10min from Terry
So Anovos can take there way over the top prices and.......... ;)
Author:  nocternus [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
ROCKET MAN wrote:
We have Chef who lives 10min from Terry
So Anovos can take there way over the top prices and.......... ;)


And they are not just over the top they are waaaay over the top, ive seen what they charge for fabric i Dredd to think what they will do with Armour
Author:  Trigger happy [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:32 pm ]
Post subject: 
I don't think our community need any more armour makers. If Anovos want to make armour they can go their hardest. I doubt sales will ever justify licence and manufacturing cost. Added to that a paint job and shipping. May as well get it from Terry for about the same price. Anovos should stick to their jedi bath robes and spock tracksuits.
Author:  ROCKET MAN [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
nocternus wrote:
ROCKET MAN wrote:
We have Chef who lives 10min from Terry
So Anovos can take there way over the top prices and.......... ;)


And they are not just over the top they are waaaay over the top, ive seen what they charge for fabric i Dredd to think what they will do with Armour


Yeah I know someone who got a Battlestar 3.5 shoulder patch for over 90 quid that's shocking mate lol
To be honest if it come about and they do produce anything it will be brought by the odd non costuming few while the anniversary hype is on , when that dies down it will be us guys again and nobody is gonna pay stupid money for questionable gear when we have two great guys sell top stuff at a good price
Author:  Scapey [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:07 pm ]
Post subject: 
That's the problem, though... If they do get the licence, they could very well go all heavy-handed and cause grief for anyone else who sells armour - Even Terry!
Author:  ROCKET MAN [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:
Scapey wrote:
That's the problem, though... If they do get the licence, they could very well go all heavy-handed and cause grief for anyone else who sells armour - Even Terry!

Agreed its the Disney Star Wars thing lol, On a business point I can't see there being any long term gain for them buy up the licences
Author:  Boltrig [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:33 pm ]
Post subject: 
Long term, maybe not so much, but if they get it for the short term and it doesnt expire that could be where the issue comes in.
Author:  ROCKET MAN [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:
Boltrig wrote:
Long term, maybe not so much, but if they get it for the short term and it doesnt expire that could be where the issue comes in.

Mmmm...yeah can see it being a proplem , bugs me after 35 years of fanbom nothing then a money opp comes up like an anniversary then the long term fans get screwed
Author:  gman666 [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:00 am ]
Post subject: 
That is also my point. It is Alien 35th. Aliens will not be for a year and half. Maybe they want to cash in but I do not see the money there.

Thanks!

Greg
Author:  MattRendar [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:51 am ]
Post subject: 
Nope
Author:  Yautja [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
It all boils down the money. I don't think these is a large enough market for USCM and without the fans wanting to shell-out a lot of money, they wouldn't gain anything from it.

These types of things go through cycles with vendors. I'm very active in the Star Wars costuming community and have seen the previous waves of Rubies and then Museum Replica SW costumes come and go. Expensive items for "okay" quality. Neither of these vendors- nor LFL- went after the fandom vendors that create a lot of the communities source for armor.
Author:  hunterkiller86 [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
I spoke with the Anovos guys at length one night about this topic too. They were curious about the armor until i brought up how much goes into with assembly and painting and how each set differed from actor to actor. they seem very interested in the idea of soft items such as BDUs, Gorman's battle outfit, and maybe Nostromo clothes. Very early stages stuff. They also told me they had access to Terry English molds.

personally the idea of armor would be crazy because how much detail they would have to put into it, which turns into the price skyrocketing. And if i want a screen accurate set, i can purchase them direct from the movie armorer himself, Terry.
Author:  eisbaer66 [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:06 pm ]
Post subject: 
I'm curious as to what they mean by "Terry English molds".
Author:  Prophet-KGB [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:23 pm ]
Post subject: 
They've got an anvil?
Author:  gman666 [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
Again no.
Author:  ROCKET MAN [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
Maybe?
Image
Author:  eisbaer66 [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:16 pm ]
Post subject: 
I suppose I could buy an anvil, hammer, bag of shot, and make the same claim. lol
Author:  Noble [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
Are we talking about a couple guys from the RPF?


Would like to see the anvil....
Author:  retrogarde [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:37 pm ]
Post subject: 
So mentioning Terry is either them blowing smoke or they're planning to sell recasts. Neither option makes me want to do business with them.
Author:  gman666 [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Do we need another armor vendor?
I am worried about the clothing after seeing their current prices.
Page 1 of 2 All times are UTC [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
http://www.phpbb.com/