Moloch wrote:
seven wrote:
Id like to see an aliens movie with no villain, like aliens and alien. Just people in a situation. good characters acting out fear and aggression. With some talent, you could make a movie about three people trapped in a freezer next to a frozen facehugger for fucks sake. Do you have a specific thing youd like to see made into a movie? In Aliens weyland was just a name. We just want to make a monster out of it as people.
But didn`t Aliens actually have a villain in the form of Burke ? Admittedly he was so human and believable that he just doesn`t come across as a classic vilain-archetype.
Moloch I kind of think that people like burke are people who are influenced by this unseen evil force. These evil intentions exist but are unclear and mysterious, and characters like him or Ash are used to show the effects of the evil influence.
Burke was W.Y. flexing is money and power to make him a tool and Ash was a complete construct. Both minions, demons who do the biding of the corporation and hint at just how massively powerful Wey-Yu must me. But the movie still keeps the mystery of the corp and makes you think, wow this guy would Murder gruesomely and against all humanity because of how powerful these people are and with Ash they literally built the most technological advanced thing just to reach their evil goal. makes me think "if this is the apprentice then how badass must the master be?" like in evil dead theres people who get possessed and they are the enemy but really theres this looming dark force that you imagine cannot be taken on.[/quote]
That was beautifully said. Couldn`t agree more.
Also that quite literally points to the direction in which a sequel should have been heading...would have loved to find out more about WY with secret labs and whatnot.[/quote]
There have been several documented cases where highly popular comic series get made into movies. I kind of get the feeling the making of alien and aliens is a test the waters deal to see if the interest is still out there. Disney is still adjusting to the fact that they have a ton of R rated material that they will be dealing with going forward and there is no real way to back away from that fact.
The evil dark forces are also an allegory to the deep state and puppet masters that run things. The core greed with Burke and others is more indicative of corporate entities at their worst.
I think if you watch Fringe and imagine xenomorphs and aliens you get a better picture on how a syndicated series could run.
In the comics you had worshippers that actually infested earth in the end. and then you had the royal jelly that was never touched on in the movies along with Xenozip. Supposedly earth got cleaned up eventually but things were really left in shambles. That is partly why I think alien3 and 4 happened so much after the first couple. Greed, double agents, and containment breeches are an eventuality if people can be swayed to look the other way.