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has there been a SA flame unit kit?
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Author:  Glenn [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:  has there been a SA flame unit kit?
ok , i know over the years many garage kits of the Pulse rifle has been made , some really bad :( but now we have a choice of a couple of really good ones very close to SA .

So the question is has any one done a really close SA of the flameunit , i know several kits have came out over the years and these kits tend to have bits missing ( NO fuel bottle , no shroud ) or non accurate parts

i have own two kit versions of the Flameunit but these have had there faults (poor casting or major parts vac formed ) .... had to buy the shroud , and build the fuel bottle

so is there out there a complete flameunit kit with all the bells and whistles ? that will not break the bank .. or will it be easier to build my own ?
Author:  bigbisont [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:03 pm ]
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Best looking flame unit I have ever seen by far is Morgan13's on the rpf. Beautiful, but not real cheap I hear (I never personal inquired). Only thing I have to question for accuracy is a tiny part of an M16 'forward assist' seems to have been stylized/idealized on it into something that looks cooler and less obvious as part of an m16.

Stunning flame unit though. Very impressive.
Author:  capn thrag [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:10 pm ]
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Was spat not thinking about doing a flame kit or was that just my imagination
Author:  springer69 [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:19 pm ]
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The Morgan13 kit was very good, well made and cast parts and Shawn was great to deal with. No idea if he still makes them though.

Pics of my old one I bought and painted:

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Author:  MattRendar [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:21 pm ]
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I talked to spat, at a recent con. He said its coming up on his to do list.
Author:  DBoz [ Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:46 pm ]
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Another +1 on the Morgan13 Flamer. He did an updated version and a new run last year. Don't know if he's still making them. Look around on theRPF. It is a beautiful piece. Shawn's castings are the most impressive I have ever seen.
Author:  ilovethecorps [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:00 am ]
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Did they actually have a functioning flame thrower in the movie in this style?
Author:  Vito [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:16 am ]
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Shawn has just redone a new one. I saw it on RPF, Glenn. I'm tempted. :)

-Callum
Author:  88reaper88 [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:17 am ]
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ilovethecorps wrote:
Did they actually have a functioning flame thrower in the movie in this style?


Yep, there's an extra on the DVD/Blu-ray showing Sig with one, plus 'field testing' of it.
I'm not sure whether it had an external fuel source or it actually used the tank/bottle though.
Author:  Spatman [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:26 am ]
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Soon my pretties.... Soon...
Author:  CheifProfanity [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:49 am ]
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Random question but what is the pistol grip/trigger cast from? Thats the only bit i stil need to source for my build!
Author:  demoncase [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:14 am ]
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88reaper88 wrote:
ilovethecorps wrote:
Did they actually have a functioning flame thrower in the movie in this style?


Yep, there's an extra on the DVD/Blu-ray showing Sig with one, plus 'field testing' of it.
I'm not sure whether it had an external fuel source or it actually used the tank/bottle though.


Further- JC's flamethrowers are 'military spec' rather than 'movie spec'- Most movie flamethrowers are just big gas burners shooting a flame. JC built the Aliens flame units to squirt a jet of liquid fuel that's ignited, meaning the fuel sticks to the target, as per real flamethrowers.

Most movie goers won't even notice the difference ;)
Author:  bigbisont [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:12 pm ]
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88reaper88 wrote:
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I'm not sure whether it had an external fuel source or it actually used the tank/bottle though.


I believe I read in Morgan13s rpf post than that knob in the back of the flame thrower is actually an industrial 'quick connect' for a hose. He tracked it down to cast it. So just me putting two and two together, but I believe that was part of the supply line of the combustible liquid for the 'action' shots.

It makes sense to me as it would be safer for the talent to just hold/aim a glorified 'nozzle' of the flame spitting device vs. carrying around compressed flammable liquids in a scratch built unit.

CheifProfanity wrote:
Random question but what is the pistol grip/trigger cast from? Thats the only bit i stil need to source for my build!


Pretty sure that part was 100% scratch built. I've never so much as heard a speculative comment for what else it could be from. But we are still learning new things every day! If the above theory is true, it would certainly be a simple functioning squeeze-lever that opens and closes a fuel valve. Any devices or tools use a that type of hand operated system?
Author:  Glenn [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: has there been a SA flame unit kit?
Ok will put my hands here guys , a while back i scratch built a flame unit , it was not 100 % and for a while i have been thinking of dusting it off and rebuilding it to make it as close as i could to SA .. i even managed to track down some quick connects for the end ... was kicking around the idea if i could get it finished and make a good job of it ... maybe do some casts and seeing if anyone wanted one as a kit ,
Author:  88reaper88 [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:03 pm ]
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If I had any money I'd certainly be up for a UK based one, but I don't!
Author:  ilovethecorps [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:35 pm ]
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How much are Shawn's flame units? Might be tempted to get one whilst I get a hero PR together...
Author:  Spatman [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:46 pm ]
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We kind of had to choose at one point between finishing the Flamer or casting the Motion Tracker. And in a perfect storm of luck we managed to get all the original parts in one place at one time, so I decided to get the Tracker done first.

Then we got lazy and did the Headsets next because they were easier and I got lucky enough to get 2 sets of real Racal's in hand at once.

Now that those are wrapped up, we can focus on the Flame Unit. I hope to have the prototype with me at DragonCon, if not earlier. If the stars align, I should have kits ready to ship before that.
Author:  capn thrag [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:48 pm ]
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Sweet muther of all that is geek I can't wait for a splamthrower official title it is
Author:  Spatman [ Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:49 pm ]
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Check the State of the SpatCave thread. There were a lot of options tossed around!
Author:  Glenn [ Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: has there been a SA flame unit kit?
made a start on this at last :D broke it down in to 3 steps
step 1 get flamer out of storage ....DONE
step 2 see what is wrong with my scratch build ..... started to mark with maker pen bits that are wrong will start sanding cutting over the next few days will take pictures as i go ...
step 3 start the rebuild ..
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