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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:25 pm 
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as being active US Navy the only thing that gets under my skin is if you look like a Bag of Ass in the uniform and claiming you earned something that you didnt. As doing Cons all the time i see people in Navy and marine uniforms all the time and thank god i have yet to have to correct some1 got close to it the last Con but bit my tounge. Like my CM uniform he Rank i wear is my real rank i will not move up until i really do and all my ribbions are earned thru service or Drops.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:27 pm 
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Sounds like you and I have very similar opinions.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:23 pm 
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IMHO If it's handled with respect and as part of a costume at a Con that should be "okay".
On the other hand I fully understand anyone on duty considering it not acceptable/being offended by using insignias or even plain uniforms.

Keep in mind that in some Countries this might not be allowed by law.

Whit this in mind I second Dom's statement not to use the USCM EGA considering that we have an alternative thanks to Dom.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:28 pm 
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That has become the accepted 'standard' now.

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It also depends on how people correct someone. Some come across as someone being helpful and supportive, while others appear to be a stick-up-your-ass know-it-all.

I've chatted quite friendly to members of other groups, able to give them pointers on what's right and what's wrong, helping them out with suggestions, and even being able to lend out spares when they've had something obviously wrong, and don't want the public shooting them down. Some old hands forget when they first started, when they were wandering around stalls, unsure if that piece of perfect kit happened to be right. I forget the number of times I picked up something cool and wartime dated, only to be told that my unit would never had used them!

I have seen someone before go to a new guy "That's the wrong shade of fucking green, you're a disgrace!" Well, yeah, his kit's not quite right, but do you really want to lose a member like that? I don't care how well-established your group may be, you aren't the real military.

The only thing that really annoyed me was the military vehicle collectors. You spend sometimes hundreds of thousands to get these vehicles tip-top accurate, but then drive around in it in jeans and a t-shirt. But, that's just me - if you spent that much, then I suppose you could wear what you want, not like I'd tell them "Your uniform's totally inaccurate, go take your Sherman home until you can get it right!"

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:32 pm 
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thoughts and opinions are appreciated!

Meh. Not feeling it. Let's stick to the accepted standard.


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Thanks Dom for your honest opinion. It is appreciated but I think I will go with this route since my uniform is UACM, not USCM, so having the eagle on my hat may look out of place. Although if I ever do a USCM outfit, I will definitely be ordering one of your badges :)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:02 am 
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This is definitely an extremely touchy subject, especially when you look at all these comments. But in the technical manual I'm pretty sure it describes vaguely how/what the USCM uniform looks. I'd say take the time to do some research before putting together any dress uniform, i.e. tech manual. It is a hit or miss (especially with active duty Marines) to get that Devil who decides to Spartan kick you in the teeth because all he sees is someone wearing his uniform who may or may not have earned it, or EGA resting on his collar/cover.
Tread carefully, and stick with that Colonial standard, and avoid EGA's lol. And for all, always present yourself any uniform with the utmost pride and professionalism, 'Rah?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:31 am 
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Thank-you, Lance Corporal LeMay. You aren't the first US Marine to do so here, but you've legitimized my point.

I cannot stress this enough- DO NOT wear USMC on your Colonial Marine uniform. For instance, if you were to wear Royal Canadian Hussars insignia, I would punch you in the throat.

Well, not really, but you get the point.


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lol. The good ol' throat punch. Ranks right up there with the ball punch.


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lol. The good ol' throat punch. Ranks right up there with the ball punch.


I think there is a little more honor in a throat punch, but maybe thats just me... :wink:
But that is neither here nor there.


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Pint of AB negative please
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There is no honour in going up to anyone and just punching them,

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There is no honour in going up to anyone and just punching them,


Oh, of course not. I was not condoning random acts of violence and sorry if it came across that way. Just taking a lighthearted jab (...pun intended) at 'ball punches', which I consider cheap shots.


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There is no honour in going up to anyone and just punching them,


Oh, of course not. I was not condoning random acts of violence and sorry if it came across that way. Just taking a lighthearted jab (...pun intended) at 'ball punches', which I consider cheap shots.



That's cleared that up lol All good carry on :D

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Ow, my balls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_4jrMwvZ2A

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:17 am 
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Can't say anything that hasn't all ready been said.

We have an alternative that looks great.
Some (real) Marines are hot headed and quick to take offense.
Personally I wouldn't mind. As a reenactor I understand the use of the items in a cinematic context. Most don't. And no one at a Con is going to claim being military and fall under Stolen Valor or a good butt-kickin' because we're honorable peeps.

Tread lightly, people still might say things not understanding the context. Be ready to answer up tactfully.

Its hard to believe that there are military peeps that haven't seen the greatest mil sci-fi movie ever, but yeah, its true (And makes me feel really old).

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:45 am 
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I saw it in a theatre in '86. ;)


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:02 am 
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That makes two of us. I saw Alien in a theater too, back in '79. I was already over 20. So who feels really old now... anybody? :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:31 pm 
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Restrict yourself to uniforms that appeared in the film. NO Dress Blues were in the film. It's pisses me off, and other Marines as well.

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Nice necropost. Attitudes like that are what drives people OUT of fandoms. You want 100% screen accurate then go join the 501st if you haven't already.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:27 pm 
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I don't think he's concerned about being "501st level" screen-accurate; I think he doesn't like people wearing uniforms which have no precedent from the film and look too much like people dressing up in his uniform.

I can understand that.
I get irritated when I see people dressing badly in my uniform for "1940's" fancy-dress parties and the like.

The flip side is that the USCM dress blues were created with care by those who have them to omit any US Marine insignia out of respect for those who serve.
What some of our guys are wearing look similar to USCM blues, but are not the same. They also look similar to Royal Marine blues, but are not the same. There's a similarity to British Army No 1... But they're not the same.

Frankly, some pissed off Marines don't like non-Marines wearing a facsimile of something which they are rightly proud of... Ranting about it on here though doesn't affect a thing... They could "go cry to their mama" for all the difference it makes.

Aside, I don't own a set of dress blues so I have stake in the game.

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Nice necropost. Attitudes like that are what drives people OUT of fandoms. You want 100% screen accurate then go join the 501st if you haven't already.


Don't know WTH you are talking about.

Does it really matter if it's a necropost. The only posts that seem to active are regarding "drops". (rolls eyes)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:31 am 
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I don't think he's concerned about being "501st level" screen-accurate; I think he doesn't like people wearing uniforms which have no precedent from the film and look too much like people dressing up in his uniform.

I can understand that....


Exactly. I'm not crying to my mama. I'm coming to the source, you chuckle heads, that take my dress uniform (specifically Dress Blues) and ****ify it.

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