As John Hurt is going to be at the LFCC, i was thinking of making a costume based on Alien.....although i have looked at a lot of pictures , lobby cards, dvd etc i can not find a good enough picture... The Trousers seem to be white BDU'S with the leg pockets on the front rather than the side, plus some padding on the knees, plus a white pilot style shirt.... i want to make this cheaply and quickley...

anyone got any good pictures of the Alien uniforms? need big pictures if possible

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Homers Hero's..
Drops so Far.... 29 and counting

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t= ... n+nostromo

All the info you need.

Steve

Thanks for that..!!! have found a place that sell white BDU'S and shirts so im almost there....if i get time might try to do the jacket..

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Pfc Glenn Allen ,
1st Batt. 69th Regiment,
Homers Hero's..
Drops so Far.... 29 and counting

Are the shirts regular or snap buttoned?

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I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

never finished the uniform..... in the end i brought Painter trousers as they were white and cheap!! so did not get around to buying the shirt..

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Pfc Glenn Allen ,
1st Batt. 69th Regiment,
Homers Hero's..
Drops so Far.... 29 and counting

Painter trousers... excellent tip! Shoud be easy enough to mod... thanks!

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I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

Dallas' and Kane's jackets are indeed Mk3 flight jackets. Not just RAF issue; they are standard for all 3 services: RAF, Army Air Corps (AAC) and Fleet Air Arm.

They've had the laces fitted and white piping around the collar.

However the problem is that I've never seen them in blue.

Although the jackets may at first appear brown in some shots I'm convinced they're a dark blue-grey (possibly the result of blue dye on green...). There are pleanty of shots that show this colour, even though it requires a little colour "decyphering".

I'm not sure how well the green jackets will take dye. The nylon strip holding the buttons shouldn't be able to take dye at all but it is clearly blue/grey.

I can't try dying mine because it's uniform.

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Supposedly, the jackets come in three colours; sage, olive and "grey-green". I believe that last colour should be the screen-accurate one... haven't seen one in real life though.

I believe the Nostromo jacket colour discrepancy issue is similar to the "Han Solo ESB parka dilemma" - whether it's blue or brown, that is. The "Indiana Jones grey or brown fedora" question is also well debated.

The lace detailing from the Soviet VKK-6 pressure suits is quite certainly green, and seems to contrast to the jackets' colour, I'm betting that the Mk3's used indeed were of that elusive "grey-green" kind... where there's grey, there can be an illusion of blue. Hence the blueish hue seen on screen, IMO.

Re: the piping aroung the collar... isn't that supposed to be pink?

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I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

Unlike alot of US flight jackets which are availbale in several colour options, the Mk3 jackets only come in green.
There was a link in that RPF topic that mentioned them being available in different shades. What it means is that the shade of the fabric differs from run to run rather than being available in three seperate colours.

I have seen varying shades of green in the last 13 years but I've never seen anything even close to the blue/grey/green that is needed.

The buttons are another interesting point. They only come in green as well but the photo's show them to be a dark grey/blue. Generaly plastic buttons don't take dye well at all.

No idea about pink piping. It always looked white to me so I never questioned it.
Having another look at the photo's I see there is pink piping on his shirt so yes, you are probably right.

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Well I thought the jacket looked familiar, so I had a look through some of my old stuff in the bottom of the wardrobe and look what I found.

From label-

SUIT AIRCREW
COLD WEATHER MARK 3
JACKET

Year manfg 1972

Patch though is 318th FIS - Green Dragons (USAF)
Added later probably?

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A86/TQ3.4.49421E3
UKCM 13th Regt. 1st Batt. Freebooters


you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

That's the one!

It's always great when you realise that you've actually got something already lying around somewhere.

You going to try dying it?

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Are you sure that the jacket wasn't just used as a pattern?
There was the Dallas prototype made in yellow.

D6

Doubtful they would go to the touble of making say the arm pen pockets on the copy and then sew the lace ups over the top.

The jackets used are exactly the same as the mark 3's so why go to the trouble of making exact copies of them?



borrowed from RPF.

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you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the info!

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I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

My Friend just sent me these pix of a couple jackets he picked up for making this costume.
The darker one is from the 90's.
He also mentioned that not only is the color different but also the zippers.


D6

That's correct. The newer jackets have black zippers and are more blue/green than the earlier olive jackets. They match the colour of the current Mk16 flying suits.

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"The other Gareth"

So its just a MK3 with laces sewn on the arms then?

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1st Batt. 69th Regiment,
Homers Hero's..
Drops so Far.... 29 and counting

Basically, yes, except that the colour is wong. The Mk3 doesn't come in the dark blue/grey/green colour of the Nostromo jacket.
And there is some piping sewn onto the collar.

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"The other Gareth"

For Kane's jacket, yes, but Dallas also had the laces on the sides at the front too, as shown in that rpf thread.

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Corporal in 69th Regt. 1st Batt. Homer’s Heroes.

"I'd like to die at the age of 80 in my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around my c**k."

So, exactly what kind of pressure suit or something are the laces from?

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Hi WDI

Can I ask which pics you've seen that show the jacket as a more blue grey colour?
Honestly can't see it myself, except where the clothing is lit by the bright fluorecent lights. Which are a blue light generally so affect the colour seen.

Oh and from what I've seen the buttons are black on the older jackets that would have been used.

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you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

As stephen210 wrote
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t= ... n+nostromo
All the info you need

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A86/TQ3.4.49421E3
UKCM 13th Regt. 1st Batt. Freebooters


you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

Hi.
The buttons on the early jackets are dark green, same as they were on the Mk2.

Call it a bit of a hunch if you will...

When I saw the first fan made replica's in brown with white lettering on the back I assumed that they were brown. It was only when seeing the movie at the cinema for the halloween re-release that I became suspicious and thought perhaps they could be blue with light green lettering.
Unfortunatly there aren't any pictures that look as convincing as rewatching the movie that day but there are one or two that help support things, in my mind at least.

I can show you the pictures that I'm thinking of. Unless you're used to working with colour under different lighting conditions it may still be hard to see it but I'll do my best to explain why I think it's a blue/grey colour.



Doesn't look like an olive green here. Next to the grey seats it look dark blue/grey.
We know the colour of the lacing on the sleeves which also gives something to compare against.


Ripley's jumpsuit is a blue/green/grey (as we know the same as the lacing on the jackets). Note the colour against the brown jacket she's wearing and also Brett's green jacket in the background.


This photo also shows the comparison of the blue/green/grey laces against Brett's green jacket (which is only slightly lighter than the early Mk3 jackets)


The photo here shows the jackets are slightly darker than Ripley's suit.

Now, they could perhaphs be a brown colour but I'm just not convinced that they are the standard olive green.
If either case is correct, blue/grey or brown, it still brings up the question of dying.


It's all a bit confusing.

What we need is someone who was there...

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Cheers WDI

Yep I agree they have been dyed, but honestly couldn't see the blue/grey you mentioned, I personally go with a faded brown tint.

Lettering on back I'd say was definitely not white also.

As for the buttons, all I can say is on my 1972 mark 3 they are definitely black.

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UKCM 13th Regt. 1st Batt. Freebooters


you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

The thing that bugged me about that is that if they'd been dyed brown I'm not sure why the velcro and nylon appear a very similar blue/green/grey to the lacing.
They should either be olive green (if they hadn't taken the dye at all) or a brown-ish tint.

Re buttons. Ok.
My old Mk3 had the same green buttons as on a Mk2 I saw recently. Evidently they also came in black which sets my mind at ease re that. Cheers.

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