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Author:  bigbisont [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  The Ultimate Character 'Personalization' resource/thread

I know for most of us, much of this info is all pretty common knowledge, but I thought it might be fun/useful to have it all in one place with pictures of the “personal touches” the actors gave their characters. Please feel free to add missing info and/or backstories!

Crowe

-Breastplate: “The bird” w/wing art
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Wierzbowski

-Helmet: “SKI” on back above his name stensil

-Back: “Spam in a can” w/rough hand drawn art
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-Crotch: “Spare Weapon” w/an arrow pointing to his junk
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Frost

-Breastplate: “Heath” (short for “Heather”, his girlfriend at the time) inside a heart w/arrow.
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*(As I’ve gathered, they did the heart too small and could only fit “Heath”, but someone assured him people would know it was short for Heather and to not worry about it…)

-Shoulder: Sticker/tape that reads “When in doubt, nuke em”
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Dietrich

-Arm: Red cross tattoo w/drop of blood

-Rear: “Kiss My…” w/a drawing of lips written in red
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-Breastplate: A red ‘No entry’ sign
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*(One that for years I assumed was meant for projectiles…then felt stupid when Moosh pointed out it was about her heart. Women, eh?)

-T Shirt: Also has red cross on back and same ‘no entry’ sign in front

-Hand: A bandage/Rising Sun headband wrap (on right hand)
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*(with a backstory uncovered by Retrograde here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12273)


Vasquez

-Chest plate: “El Riesgo Siempre Vive” in white paint
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*(translated to ‘The risk always lives’. The actress stated in the “making of” film that it was chosen from one of her favorite poems )

-On her weapon: “Adios” in white paint
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-On her back (BDU top): Written “Loco” in black marker
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-On her tank top neckline: A poorly drawn, then abandoned attempt at a skull in black marker
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*(I forget where I heard/read that, but it was def somewhere…)


Drake

-Hat: “This END UP” in marker & some kind of bead/chicken bone necklace through brim.
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-Neck/weapon: Another beeded necklace with feathers/bones that is around his neck early, then tied around the barrel of the smartgun later.

-Weapon: “My Bitch” written on body. “Grrr” written on barrel. (pics needed)


Apone

-n/a. The man was no-nonsense.


Spunkmeyer

-Nothing known by me. Anyone?


Ferro

-Helmet: “Fly the friendly skies”
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-Pistol holster: A lucky rabbits foot


Hudson

-Helmet: In black marker he has; an 8-ball drawing, his “game over” countdown, and “dead head” written on the helmet cover.
*(good pics needed)

-Body Armor: Pretty iconic and well known stuff.
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*(If anyone wants to get into deeper meaning, please feel free. Other than Louise being his fiancé’ at the time, I think most of it is just him being a smart ass)

-Crotch: Sardine key
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-Neck: paracord necklace (need pics)

-Rt Strap: A bolo knot. A nod to his Texas heritage? (need pics)


Hicks

-Breastplate: Heart and pad-lock (need good pic)
*(worth noting that Michael Biehn did not do the personalizations and in the ‘making of’ video vocalized displeasure with the previous actor cast as Hicks putting a “target” (the heart) on the armor)

-Back: Chinese(?) character.
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*(I’ve heard the character translates to something about love. Also some reproductions show “Danger” “Lifer” on the back, although from this screen grab I don’t see it. If anyone knows that back story please fill in the gaps).

-Shoulder: “Born again” written around a bullet hole (need pics)



I’m sure I’ve missed things. Especially with Hicks and Hudson this stuff is so common that I didn’t really dig very deep. I would appreciate and welcome anyone that has something to add. Be it a personal touch missed, a back story filled in, or even just a better picture. Thanks!

Author:  retrogarde [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:01 pm ]
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Great job man!
I'd actually never seen Crowe's stuff or all of Drake's and Vasquez's.

Author:  Ttaskmaster [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:58 pm ]
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bigbisont wrote:
Spunkmeyer
-Nothing known by me. Anyone?

He wore a green cap at one stage, with 'Grunt Runt' written on the front.
I believe he also has 'Death From Above' written on him somewhere.
Kev knows more than me... ;)


bigbisont wrote:
Ferro
-Helmet: “Fly the friendly skies”

I believe it's actually "*I* Fly The Friendly Skies"...
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Author:  Moosh89 [ Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:25 pm ]
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Don't forget Vasquez's teardrop tattoo under her eye !

I did find good photos of Hick's armour, I didn't know at the time if it was the real deal or a replication. I will look again :)

Here it is, it is an exact replication done by Terry English :)

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As found here:

http://www.scifiguns.com/main2_1.htm

Author:  SSgt Burton [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:09 am ]
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Dietrich:

Has a nurse's Caduceus in her helmet band-

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Now while I knew about the caduceus for about a year, it wasn't until recently that someone (gunny63?) identified the particular one used-


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The "N" can bee seen in her promo pic (just before she gets jumped by the alien in the hive).


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Hudson:

This is bloody hard to get a clear shot of, but he has an Eagle Bolo tie on his right grenade strap:

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There it is to the (picture's left) of his skull graffitti.

This was identified a few years back as the correct Eagle Bolo:

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(Hudson's is a bright silver rather than the subdued one above)

Here is another pic of the more accurate bright silver version (unfortunately I can't find a bigger pic):

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These were readily available on ebay at one time.


Kevin

Author:  Hudson [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:29 am ]
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This thread can be great! Maybe should eventually be made a sticky.

Author:  SSgt Burton [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:31 am ]
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bigbisont wrote:
Also some reproductions show “Danger” “Lifer” on the back, although from this screen grab I don’t see it.



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"Lifer" (in white letters) can be seen between his lower armour attachment (braces?). Never heard a backstory from Michael Biehn (or James Remar ;) ), but the simple answer is that a "Lifer" is someone who has no intention of quitting or retiring from (in this case) the Corps. They are in "for life."

I've never seen "Danger" on his armour either.


Kevin

Author:  gunny63 [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:33 am ]
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cool thread, good to see it all being presented together

Author:  Ttaskmaster [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:09 pm ]
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This may cause further problems, but the US Army Nurse's Caduceus collar insignia comes in several different versions, depending on whether they were made pre, mid or post WW2, or even later, with the N in a number of different colours.

Depends how screen-accurate you want to be... ;)

Author:  bigbisont [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:22 pm ]
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SSgt Burton wrote:
"Lifer" (in white letters) can be seen between his lower armour attachment (braces?). Never heard a backstory from Michael Biehn (or James Remar ;) ), but the simple answer is that a "Lifer" is someone who has no intention of quitting or retiring from (in this case) the Corps. They are in "for life."

I've never seen "Danger" on his armour either.


Kevin



Awesome to the max. And yes, now I see the white letters "lifer". I was half expecting it to appear in red like on the reproduction armor I had seen before (and Moosh later posted), but sure enough, there it is.

Also the nurse pin and bolo knots are GREAT pics and info.

Thanks!

Author:  SSgt Burton [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:08 pm ]
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Ttaskmaster wrote:
I believe it's actually "*I* Fly The Friendly Skies"...


That first mark on her helmet isn't an "I", it is a single (open) quotation mark-

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The opposite side of her helmet has the "close" quotation mark. So her slogan is in quotation marks-

' Fly the Friendly Skies '


Spunkmeyer:

(I forgot about this one)


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On the left shoulder of his flak vest (circled) is some writing in magic marker. It has been identified (I believe by Harry) as

"Death From Above"

As Woody said, the writing on his cap is 'Grunt Runt.'


(Edited because I skim read Woody's original post- sorry Woody. :) )

PS- the pic of Ferro's helmet is the actual screenused helmet in case anyone is wondering. Pic courtesy of member "Gio" (Alien Emotion) who currently owns it.


Kevin

Author:  bigbisont [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:39 pm ]
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Another one I forgot to post for hicks was the tattoo on his arm.

"USCM" then numbers (that appear to be a social security number from the format?)
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Author:  SSgt Burton [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:51 pm ]
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There has been "a lot" of debate about the meaning of the numbers of Hicks' tattoo-

I don't think it is an SSN, but might be part of his Marine service number. I like to say it is his "Vidfone" number for the laydeez. 8)


One thing for certain is that he did have it in the film, and it wasn't just for that promotional pic:

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Kevin

Author:  Jonsey The Cat [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:00 pm ]
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SSgt Burton wrote:
There has been "a lot" of debate about the meaning of the numbers of Hicks' tattoo-

I don't think it is an SSN, but might be part of his Marine service number. I like to say it is his "Vidfone" number for the laydeez. 8)

Kevin


Nice thread! Have been thinking this for ages so its great that someone picked it up. Had a discussion with an artist way back planning to do a small PDF guide to the Marines but both were busy with other projects. So I encourage all guys here to continue and excavate details and post pics to complete it all, I know here is more on the forum.

As for Hicks SSN I actually asked him at a con a few years back. He said that the prop department gave them hands free to "personalize" their outlooks so he took a grease pencil and wrote his SSN on his arm that he thought was cool. I interpreted as a flesh tag so one knows who the body belongs to in case of mutilation.
- So now you can use it.. he said smiling.
I said -Yeah later, and smiled back.
He suddenly looked like a ghost that scared me a little and he hurriedly backed off. He probably thought I was a stalker and got second thoughts which felt a little strange.

He also claim SSN during a magazine interview and I think it is also mentioned on one of the DVDs/BR's.

As for continuing Marine personalization there is the Barbed wire neck tattoo, whose was it... Hudsons?? that has to be added (don't recall if a couple of dog tags were also in the tattoo)?
The Eye on the Drakes Smartgun Eye piece must be added.
Dietrichs Medic bag has a huge red cross painted on it.
The Chinese signs on Hicks armor btw are deciphered in detail here somewhere. Some one with more time then me have to go through the archives.

Could we list all the details in text for each character to get a more clear overview?

/Jonsey

Author:  Bug Stomper [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:52 pm ]
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In addition to the barbed wire Hudson also has a hinge tatooed on the inside of his left elbow joint.


Cheers,
Stefan

Author:  bigbisont [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:21 pm ]
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Bug Stomper wrote:
In addition to the barbed wire Hudson also has a hinge tatooed on the inside of his left elbow joint.


Cheers,
Stefan


Well, not a "great" shot, as you can't see if dog tags are present on the bottom, but here is Hudson's "barb wire" tat.
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Considering that elbow is under bandages through most of the movie, it could be a tough pull to find a good shot of the elbow. I'll see what I can scrounge up!

Moosh89 wrote:
Don't forget Vasquez's teardrop tattoo under her eye !



Hey Moosh, where was it you saw this? Im trying to grab an image to post, but after a dozen face images I dont see one under either eye.

Author:  Ttaskmaster [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:57 pm ]
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bigbisont wrote:
Hey Moosh, where was it you saw this? Im trying to grab an image to post, but after a dozen face images I dont see one under either eye.

Try the one where Ripley says, "I hope you're right... I really do" and Vas stares back in chastised arrogance.
Also, look at Vas's facial closeups when she's welding everything.

Author:  retrogarde [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:13 pm ]
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Vasquez teardrop tattoo!

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Ssgt Burton found this picture of Hudson's hinge tattoo in another thread.

Drake has a scar on his cheek (that Mark Rolston requested), and Gorman has a wedding band. Any other jewelry on folks?

Author:  PVB [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:28 pm ]
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Was gonna post pics I just took with my digicam from the blu ray, will post them once the camera's battery has recharged. :)

Vas' tattoo is barely visible and not shown at all in most publicity pics, maybe just done with mascara or something at the time?

Hudson has a skull & crossbones at the bottom of his barbed wire necklace, seen in the pic just above.

Author:  PVB [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:31 pm ]
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Ttaskmaster wrote:
bigbisont wrote:
Hey Moosh, where was it you saw this? Im trying to grab an image to post, but after a dozen face images I dont see one under either eye.

Try the one where Ripley says, "I hope you're right... I really do" and Vas stares back in chastised arrogance.
Also, look at Vas's facial closeups when she's welding everything.

I grabbed my pics from the chinups scene after they wake from cryo sleep. Nice close shots of her face. :)

Author:  PVB [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:36 pm ]
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retrogarde wrote:
... and Gorman has a wedding band. Any other jewelry on folks?

'Bowski's wearing a plain gold ring on his wedding ring finger too.

Drake's got more than one necklace on, including at least one metal chain. Will try to get a shot later.

Author:  retrogarde [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:59 pm ]
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Drake's scar.

Author:  MattRendar [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:48 pm ]
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Awesome thread ! Great pics . Very useful .

Author:  PVB [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:15 pm ]
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Hudson wrote:
This thread can be great! Maybe should eventually be made a sticky.

Or put in the Archive section, but for that I suggest all the pics are redone as attachments to the forum, so that in the future they don't disappear. :)

My pics of Hudson and Vasquez:

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Author:  retrogarde [ Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:59 pm ]
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Is that text on Hudson's medical patch thingies or a shadow from a raised section in the middle?

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