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Author:  PVB [ Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:14 am ]
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retrogarde wrote:
Is that text on Hudson's medical patch thingies or a shadow from a raised section in the middle?

There's definitely text on some/all of them. No idea what they say though.

Author:  Mudshark [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:52 am ]
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In regard to the Chinese / Japanese character on the back of Hicks' armor, it does in fact mean "love". In Japanese the kanji (character) is pronounced ai, like "I". Incidentally, it is written incorrectly. The kanji written on the back of the Terry English's Hicks armor as pictured below does not exist.

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It should look like this: (the four brush strokes in the very center of the character mean "heart", or kokoro in Japanese).

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With the red heart painted on the front of his armor, the addition of the kanji on the back could be a reference to love in a romantic sense, but with "LIFER" below it I always got the impression it meant love of the Corps. I wonder if anyone has something to support either of those assumptions?

Author:  Mudshark [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:17 am ]
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Dietrich: Also had "Blue Angel" written on the back of her helmet cover.

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Hudson: His helmet cover had "BRAIN DEAD" written on the front, not "Dead Head". :wink: I think I have better pics somewhere, but you can just make out the word DEAD in these pics.

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Drake: His right glove had this interesting design in white on the back. This screen grab shows it quite clearly.

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Here's a pretty clear shot of his "juju" bead necklace with the chicken bones:

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Another shot of Drake's cap with the beads & bones on it:

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And lastly: Gotta love this one of Hudson freaking out during the knife trick sequence! Note Drake's chicken bones hanging down beside his head.

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Author:  Willie Goldman [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:05 am ]
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Bigger:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Vso40s3REKo/U ... 1600/1.jpg

Author:  gunny63 [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:42 am ]
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its look like the uscm is a very right on and cool bunch!!

Author:  Winch [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:11 pm ]
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Willie Goldman wrote:


Oops the teardrop has changed sides! A bit like Madonnas beauty spot used to, perhaps it was an 80's thing! ;-)

It's definitely under her left eye in the pics PVB posted earlier in this thread so I'm guessing some dumbass Graphic Designer @ the magazine flipped the image for "better visual balance" or just because he wanted the text down the left side of the cover and Jeanettes face was off centre to that side too!

While on the subject of the teardrop I'm fairly sure this has been mentioned before but the background information for Vasquez & Drake supplied to the actors was that they had joined the Marines rather than go to jail and I believe a Teardrop Tattoo is supposed to be a Prison/Gang thing to indicate you've killed someone.

Author:  Scapey [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:43 pm ]
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Drakes glove could be a variant of "aum"?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=aum&a ... 0QWYnYDgDg

Author:  Mudshark [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:05 pm ]
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I looked for the teardrop and immediately noticed that the image was flipped. I suppose these little changes get by for the most part because nobody but the truly obsessed (like us) ever look for things like that. :lol:

Some layout artists and even film editors do this blatantly. They probably get away with it because most people aren't looking for it. I wish they (especially film editors) would be a bit more judicious about when and when not to reverse images and scenes.

Going off topic for a moment, in the Lord of the Rings film trilogy I noticed that a number of sequences were reversed, even while watching for the first time. It was that obvious. When Aragorn's sword scabbard switched from his left hip to his right and then back again it was pretty hard not to notice how ridiculous that looked. I suppose they felt their reasons were justified, but suddenly reversed equipment is a dead giveaway and can backfire if not used with more care. It's nearly impossible to ignore those unfortunate flaws once you know they're there, dammit!

Author:  SSgt Burton [ Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:55 pm ]
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Winch wrote:
the background information for Vasquez & Drake supplied to the actors was that they had joined the Marines rather than go to jail and I believe a Teardrop Tattoo is supposed to be a Prison/Gang thing to indicate you've killed someone.


Yes and in that very Starlog issue is the Jenette Goldstein interview in which she describes Vasquez and Drake's backstories-

They were recruited from juvenile prison (serving life sentences) and were "permanent" Marines- no chance of discharge (otherwise they go back to prison). This is why their characters couldn't care less about protocol, had a much stonger bond with each other than the rest of the platoon and had zero fear of death.

Another meaning to the teardrop tattoo, is that a member of the gang died while the wearer of the tattoo was in prison and therefore couldn't attend the service.


Kevin

Author:  retrogarde [ Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:45 pm ]
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That is great backstory for Drake and Vasquez, and a really interesting idea for were the USCM recruits folks. It would hardly seem like they'd be the only ones who were offered that option, right?

Makes you wonder about Hicks being a "lifer", doesn't it?

Author:  PVB [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:35 pm ]
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Watching Aliens on blu ray tonight (as you do) I noticed something else;

In the waking up from cryo scene, as the camera gets close to Ripley, it's obvious she doesn't have a 'Brazilian'. :wink:

I doubt I could get a good enough pic just using my digicam, so just go look for yourselves if you want. :twisted:

Author:  retrogarde [ Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:41 pm ]
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It *was* the 80's Steve!

Author:  nickdaring [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:50 am ]
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I noticed that too the last time I watch on BLu Ray. Crazy detail.

Author:  bigbisont [ Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:39 pm ]
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Found some "missing" pics while watching the other day. (Kid had the flu, I was home from work with him, now I'm sick! So Ive had some down time!)


Drakes "eye" on his smart gun sight.
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His "GRRRR" (previously posted incorrectly by me as on the barrel. Seen here clearly on the trigger guard)
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More drake "Bones" (and lots of tactical Duct Tape!)
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Author:  retrogarde [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:17 am ]
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Apone has a wedding band and a Catholic medal necklace (Saint Christopher maybe?). Both can be seen when he wakes up from Cryo.

Author:  gunny63 [ Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:54 pm ]
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here are a couple more, i found this pic of a set of ski's bdu on an old auction site, there is a red cross on his right pocket.

and on the same site a set of hudson's with cut down sleeves

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Author:  Russ Krook III [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:58 pm ]
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Mudshark wrote:
With the red heart painted on the front of his armor, the addition of the kanji on the back could be a reference to love in a romantic sense, but with "LIFER" below it I always got the impression it meant love of the Corps. I wonder if anyone has something to support either of those assumptions?


I jus had a thought about this. On the replica there's the word "danger"
under the kanji. I wonder if it's supposed to mean he loves danger? :)

Another problem is very few of Terry's replica armor sets
Are exactly the same as the film ones. The camo patterns
are all over the place, even when compared with suits of
armor worn by the same actor in the film itself.

Author:  CrashDown [ Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:37 pm ]
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Need to dig out the blu ray for a closer look, but i'm wondering if Frost has something written on his shoulder lamp.

EDIT: Right, dug it out and im sure theres something on there, but its not legible to me. Could just be random wear.

Author:  nick-a-tron [ Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:24 am ]
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Ive seen replica hicks crotch guards with "non-toxic" written on them. Is this screen accurate?

Author:  Jedi Atticus [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:43 am ]
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gunny63 wrote:
here are a couple more, i found this pic of a set of ski's bdu on an old auction site, there is a red cross on his right pocket.

and on the same site a set of hudson's with cut down sleeves


I always assumed Hudson and Hicks had short sleeve BDU's with how high they rolled them up and how relatively thin it bunched up. Does anyone one know for sure if Hicks had any like this?

Author:  Axeman [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:21 pm ]
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very funky thread, love the pics and various backstories and anecdotes. bravo:)

Author:  bigbisont [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:51 pm ]
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Jedi Atticus wrote:
I always assumed Hudson and Hicks had short sleeve BDU's with how high they rolled them up and how relatively thin it bunched up. Does anyone one know for sure if Hicks had any like this?


Define "know for sure". I have never seen a pic of Hick's BDUs showing the short sleeve, but I do feel pretty positive in saying long sleeves do not roll into armpits while keeping a flat profile! I would think they had to have been at least as short as Hudson's.


But in other concrete news, Sgt Burton posted this pick in another thread and it hadnt been mentioned here yet, so figured I would roll it on over.

Ski's "Dice" below the last letters of his name.
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Author:  PVB [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:12 pm ]
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The dice are showing two ones, known as snake eyes, meaning bad luck.

Guess Trevor did it as he knew Bowski was going to snuff it? :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_eyes

Author:  retrogarde [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:28 am ]
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Wait, who is "WIEZbowski"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Jefferson 8)

Author:  Trigger happy [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:09 pm ]
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Great topic. Been very helpful with painting my armour. Thanks for posting

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