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 Post subject: Sulaco Locker Widget: a work in progress
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:33 pm 
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This is just a rough first fitting of the pieces. I have a 3" floppy port (not identical to the SC one but close enough), a calculator that will be built up to have round buttons like the SU one, and 80% of the upper parts framed up in foam core. I still need to add the two lights and the wire mesh inside the righthand indentation (visible in other shots of the Widget).

I'm at a loss as to what the middle part is that I haven't framed out yet. I can make something that has a similar look, but I don't know if it is supposed to be a latch or what. Any thoughts?

I'm going to re-watch the scene to see how the lockers are openned. Maybe this will provide a clue.

So more trimming and then some paint are next for this.

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I just flipped through my Anthology on one of my PS3s. I have it hooked up to a Hauppauge, but it doesn't support 1080p, only 1080i, so the bluray image on my computer gets squished horizontally, but I managed to snag you some screens none the less :)

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Some inside shots of the lockers, Edited of course to not break forum rules HAHA!
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Your image of Wierzbowski's locker is more clear, but this one has better lighting to see inside the "latch" hole
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Thank you so much! These are great!

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Making the 24 round calculator buttons.

I made them in PhotoShop remaining as faithful as I could to the blurry images, but in the end I fudged a few, including a little Weyland-Yutani logo button. These are then attached to two-sided sticky foam backing (available at scrapbooking stores), and then hole punched to the correct size.

The edge will then be colored black with a sharpie marker and sprayed with a sealer.

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So my calculator rebuild is done, and I am pretty happy with the results. The 3" floppy port still needs trimming a painting, but that's not hard. The top part isn't looking as good as I'd like though. I can fix the placement of the two lights easily enough (I have to remember: always have your reference photos handy).
But the two round-cornered rectangles on the top section just aren't symetrical enough. I did my best but they just don't look right to me. Any suggestions on how to make them better?

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you can try making a stick on stencil with squares with rounded corners from photoshop

All you need is wide painters tape (the green or blue stuff, about 2") and wax paper (like the roll of baking stuff) and a crafters knife, or exacto knife

cut a piece of wax paper that is as big as a regular computer paper, and place strips of tape (overlapping slightly) all over it, then place the computer paper overtop it, trace it and cut it down to size so it will fit in your printer. Whip up your stencil on Photoshop, and print it.

Wait for a while, like a few hours to let the ink dry so it doesn't smudge when you are handling it. and cut it out with your knife, peel the wax paper off the back and stick it down to your surface :)

For something with a "hole" in it, you should keep some support posts in it to hold the inner piece in, and cut those out later after you have the majority of the shape cut into your surface. (Think of an "O" stencil)

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While I continue to experiment with the widget itself, this part was easy to get right:

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I looked at all the name plates to see what sort of patterns were present. As with everything about the Aliens production I was struck by the level of detail and consistency. Obviously the name and service number are unique to each Marine, but then we have the APC number which remains consistent for all the Marines (I made mine different as I'm not part of the Sulaco crew), as well as the "TS/04" in the upper lefthand corner and the "E6" in the bottom righthand corner. What does change though is the number before the "TS/04" and the letter opposite, and these need to change together as they are the actual locker number. So Weirzbowski's locker is "9/I" as "I" is the ninth letter of the alphabet. I chose "E" so the number on the left has to be "5".
What I wish we had photos of were Ripley and Burke's lockers as they would give us an idea of what is Marine specific information and what is simply more locker designation. In the film you can see that Ripley has a black name plate on her locker, but I don't know if a photo of it exists. I would guess the APC number would be missing on them as it is prefaced with USCMC, but that is just a conjecture.

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One thing I've noticed is that the non-standard keypad button symbols are different/in a different position on each locker.

I've taken pics of all the ones on the blu ray extras and zipped them up:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1004067/lockers.zip

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:12 pm 
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Thanks Steve, those are great!
But what the hell does it mean? For all the world I'd assumed they just bought a dozen of the same calculator and slapped them together, but these are all over the place with the keys.

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 Post subject: Re: Sulaco Locker Widget: a work in progress
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:37 pm 
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As you look at the different sets, you'll see the keys with weird symbols on in some have regular calculator key symbols in others, as if they did the same as you have; stuck new key symbols on several buttons, either with some falling off or just being stuck on other buttons. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:17 am 
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That actually makes the most sense. Those symbols aren't anything I've ever seen on a calculator before!

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That pretty awesome. You should find a way to mount it to your light switch. Come in the room hit a couple of button LIGHTS ON! It would turn it into a functional prop instead of a static one.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:36 pm 
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Thanks Valdez! I think the real lightswitch option is still this:

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My plan for this is to make it a functioning latch on a box for storing my armor. Ideally it will resemble the lockers on the Sulaco. We'll see if that happens...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:16 am 
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Thats one complicated light switch!

Man you have my creative juices flowing. (thats a good thing)

Time to build something!


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What a great idea, and its looking great!!

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I recut the holes on the top third. That's about as good as I'm going to get it, so I'm going to let that part be done.
I repositioned the lights so that they are centered like in the original. Much better!

Next up is painting, some bondo, and then on to the latch mechanism.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:42 am 
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I wanted to compare my widget build to Tommin's, but I realized I'd never posted my finished version! Well, here it is (with a little bit of wear and tear from being set dressing on Last Flight of the Freya 7) beside one of Tommin's vacuformed versions.

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The good news is that they are virtually the same size. Once I get it spruced up and painted they will make a very nice pair.

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One thing I noticed though is that Tommin's top section has the screen in both indented areas instead of the rectangle on the left. This isn't a hard thing to fix though at all. [EDIT: I only bought the vacuformed piece from Tommin, his kit actually comes with the rectangle]

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I've started adding buttons to the keypad and I have a few other additions lined up to follow. All in all Tommin's version has super clean lines and a nicely idealized shape. It's really pretty great!

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Outstanding!! Looking forward to seeing what kinda magic you can do with it. :D

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:19 pm 
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One thing I've noticed is that the non-standard keypad button symbols are different/in a different position on each locker.

I've taken pics of all the ones on the blu ray extras and zipped them up:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1004067/lockers.zip


I clicked on the link and it doesn't work. :(

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:07 pm 
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Each locker had slightly different buttons it seems. Here are two of the clearest photos I had saved:

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I found another shot of my original locker widget. I have no idea why I didn't document this build better...

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Anyway, I'm now going to work on upgrading the numbers and symbols on both of my locker widgets at the same time.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:25 am 
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I found four more!

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Sweeeeet.

Hey, so how big are those furniture pad buttons you are using? I saw some online that "look" right to me, and are already black, but are 7mm. I think that is too small just from eyeballing my pad here. How big are yours?

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