Well, not really, but...
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| Author: | Willie Goldman [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Pulse Rifles and Powerloaders in Prometheus |
Well, not really, but...
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| Author: | AaronHorrocks [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pulse Rifles and Powerloaders in Prometheus |
That Pulse Rifle looks like it has a 16" barrel. Maybe they couldn't get the SBR paperwork done or approved? Also it looks like it's more M16 based than Thompson based to me. |
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| Author: | Spatman [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:12 am ] |
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Ha! I've always wanted to make a Civilian version of the Pulse Rifle. An AR-41 as it were. With a full stock, longer barrel, no grenade launcher and no counter. We need a high res copy of that pic. I'm sure we can get one of those out pretty quick. |
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| Author: | SgtTony [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:22 pm ] |
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Tech looks much cleaner and more expensive then what we're used to....must be new to deep space exploration with plenty of funds flowing for it!! |
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| Author: | 88reaper88 [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:01 am ] |
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These are concept pics right, not stills? They don't look high-res enough. |
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| Author: | Ripstick [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:04 pm ] |
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SgtTony wrote: Tech looks much cleaner and more expensive then what we're used to....must be new to deep space exploration with plenty of funds flowing for it!! Exactly what I was thinking.Actually, this totally reminds me of the Star Wars prequels where for the OLDER technology was far more streamlined and advanced than that of the original films which were taking place later in the Lucas timeline. Unfortunately (or fortunately I suppose), today's real world technology and designs for special effects in film are so much more advanced that it sometimes directly contradicts the proper technological/design advancement in chronological story-telling prequels such as this. One recent exception that does come to mind however was the 2011 version of "The Thing", which was actually a prequel to John Carpenter's 1982 version. They did a very good job making you believe it took place and was filmed in the very same time period. I was actually pleasantly surprised and quite impressed with how that story was written, how the characters interacted with one another, and how this was all envisioned to come together on film to make you believe it could have been entirely filmed back in 1982. Although I do hope it proves to be a good thrillride of a film, I think Prometheus is going to come across as too advanced for us to actually believe it took place PRIOR to the Alien Quadrilogy. Most of the tech I've seen so far looks completely out of place, and I get a very different feeling when looking at it -- a feeling like this is more of a Space 1999 remake with updated Jerry Anderson designs and modern-day superhero costumes. I really do hope I'm wrong though. 
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| Author: | 88reaper88 [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:10 pm ] |
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It could just be new in Prometheus and old in Alien.... Built to last.... |
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| Author: | Spatman [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:42 pm ] |
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So if it's 57 years between Alien and Aliens, what's the time between Prometheus and Alien? Figure the M16 came out in '63 and variants of it are still being used today, and that's almost 50 years there. So an older model Pulse Rifle could have been in use in Alien. And Forklifts haven't changed much in a very long time. So an older version of the Powerloader looking similar is not out of the realm. Assuming that Prometheus doesn't take place too far before Alien. |
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| Author: | mrephunk [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:10 am ] |
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I believe i read somewhere its like 70 years before Alien. But don't quote me on that as I can't seem to find the source of the info at the moment |
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| Author: | kane2122 [ Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pulse Rifles and Powerloaders in Prometheus |
It's 37 years between Prometheus and the events in Alien. Prometheus arrives at LV223 2085.........Alien Nostromo lands LV426 2122 |
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| Author: | Dropshipbob [ Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:07 pm ] |
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I too was wondering how Scott was going to explain the differencies between the tech in the two films. Or just SKIP explaining. The Nostromo was basicly a semi truck, Prometheus is a research/rescue vessel so it would need the state of the art equipment. |
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| Author: | hunterkiller86 [ Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:25 pm ] |
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Spatman wrote: So if it's 57 years between Alien and Aliens, what's the time between Prometheus and Alien? Figure the M16 came out in '63 and variants of it are still being used today, and that's almost 50 years there. So an older model Pulse Rifle could have been in use in Alien. And Forklifts haven't changed much in a very long time. So an older version of the Powerloader looking similar is not out of the realm. Assuming that Prometheus doesn't take place too far before Alien. m16 is still used in the Colonial Marine Corps too 
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| Author: | xeno1 [ Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:43 pm ] |
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hunterkiller86 wrote: Spatman wrote: So if it's 57 years between Alien and Aliens, what's the time between Prometheus and Alien? From what I understand, Prometheus is 40 years before Alien. |
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| Author: | kane2122 [ Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pulse Rifles and Powerloaders in Prometheus |
Already explained above, 37 years between Prometheus & Alien........ 
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| Author: | DBoz [ Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:02 pm ] |
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These are from www.weylandindustries.com Makes me wonder if we will actually see the power loader and pulse rifle (or Storm Rifle as it is called on the website) in the film. I suspect probably not and they were just put on the web page as a nod to Cameron's work. That's just my opinion. There's a pretty interesting timeline of Weyland Industries on that website, stating the discovery of LV-426 in 2039. Oh, and it also mentions the invention of the Storm Rifle in 2024. As an aside, does anyone else think the suits, vehicles, and even buildings and interiors in those shots have a very Mass Effect look and feel? |
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| Author: | Jonsey The Cat [ Wed May 02, 2012 12:00 am ] |
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Sorry, still feel some Star Trek vibes about this, no offense to any trekkers... I will see it and enjoy it but I doubt it will bring anything more then a good idea. / Jonsey |
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| Author: | Svenza [ Wed May 02, 2012 6:57 pm ] |
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Dropshipbob wrote: The Nostromo was basicly a semi truck, Prometheus is a research/rescue vessel so it would need the state of the art equipment. I was thinking the same ! |
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| Author: | Jonsey The Cat [ Thu May 03, 2012 1:16 pm ] |
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I still like the old NASA look. If it gets too Sci-fi I kind a loose the feeling and there has been too much X-men lately, everything should look cool and sleek like concept cars. I prefer crude and old Gothic style, its more scary and one can relax and focus on the actors and story, and not sitting and listen to the kids in the audience going; Wow, Coool, Awesome! I mean even if its top notch research facility it doesn't have to be CSI Miami. /Jonsey |
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| Author: | AaronHorrocks [ Thu May 03, 2012 3:57 pm ] |
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Maybe everything looks sleeker and sexier because it's all brand new and top of the line... As opposed to 40 year old military crap that was used and abused, built by the lowest bidder, and cheaply made to be issued to Marines. |
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| Author: | Alien1099 [ Thu May 03, 2012 6:11 pm ] |
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That looks like a pulse rifle that was molested by a football bat. WTH |
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| Author: | lear60man [ Tue May 08, 2012 6:24 am ] |
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Now I dont feel so bad about having a 16" barrel on my live fire. 
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| Author: | hunterkiller86 [ Tue May 08, 2012 6:26 am ] |
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does the shotgun fire too? |
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| Author: | Garrowan5th [ Tue May 08, 2012 2:49 pm ] |
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Hmmm.....intriguing......the pulse rifle as we know it was introduced in the early 2170's based on a similar rifle from the 2160s. Could this weapon be the one that inspired the 'Harrington Automatic' or has Ridley indeed decided to ignore the tech manual and throw in something cool and recognisable? |
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| Author: | retrogarde [ Tue May 08, 2012 10:05 pm ] |
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I doubt very much that Ridley knows (or cares) about the tech manual. In fact I would guess any references to Aliens (Weyland logo, etc.) are Damon Lindeloff's influence. Who knows if any of the stuff from the website that doesn't relate directly to the Prometheus ship or David 8 will even be on screen. |
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| Author: | Garrowan5th [ Tue May 08, 2012 10:32 pm ] |
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Yup, most likely |
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