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 Post subject: Helmet front plates: Tall vs. low profile, whats the deal?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:37 pm 
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So this has been bugging me a while, and I sorta worry about offending armor makers everywhere...but I need to get an answer if one exists (If the answer is "Because Terry English said so", then oh well. I will live with it [and i suspect that is the answer]).

When I see the movie, screen grabs, and pics of original prop helmets, I see a low profile, sleek, 3-4" tall front plate.
- Much of the M1 pot is visible above the plate, even from a straight on view.
- From the Hudson Helmet on the HarryHarris site, I notice how the top of front plate has a subtle, mostly horizontal arc off the corner of the camera, nothing crazy.
-On the other side, the highest point of the front plate is only a tad higher overall than the highest point of the ear flap assembly/plate.

Now, in STARK contrast, I see every other reproduction EVER (ready made, kit form, peprakura, and even 2 diff. examples that TERRY ENGLISH's hand made himself!!!) ...and they ALL have these tall, arcing, HUGE front plates.
-A pronounced, mostly vertical arc off the camera plate, if it makes any contact at all.
-easily clear 2"+ above the ear flap plates
-Crazy tall plates (6-7" high on some) that seem to envelope the entire front of the helmet and cover all but the very tippy top of the M1 pot.

In my humblest opinion, and I truly dont mean to offend any of the hard working reproducers out there; Low profile plate = Sleek and Cool. Tall huge = Blount looking turtle shells that vex me terribly. This is why I wonder "why the difference/change?"

Has anyone else noticed? If so, what do prefer? ...or am I just OCD and this is not a big deal as I seem to think it is?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:11 pm 
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I'm guessing that other people's helmet/armour (such as Spat's) is not a direct copy of an SU set, rather a close approximation. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:18 pm 
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I'm hoping to do a scratch build on some helmet armor soon and while doing research I noticed this as well! Surprising to say the least with how hardcore Aliens fans usually are with their replicas!

There must have been an older replica with a taller front plate from a while back that led to a chain of influence that is still seen in today's fanmade helmets. Only thing that makes sense to me.

What were the earliest fanmade USCM Helmets on the market? Marco?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 pm 
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I eyeballed mine. It wasn't until many years into making them that I got to see an original up close. My plate is a little less than an inch taller than the original.

And some of the other helmets out there are copies of mine.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:24 pm 
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....or at the very least, used measurements off mine to make theirs.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:17 pm 
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I eyeballed mine but my helmet has two dents in the top so the plate looks huge, it's about the same as Spat's though.

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