I'm working on some custom projects off an on, and one of the things I needed was a USCM emblem. I wasn't too satisfied with what was already available, so I drew one up in CAD. There's a few artistic tweeks that I've done that are a hair different than what was already made. For instance I used an angle of 13 degrees on most (or all) of the stripes to represent the original 13 colonies. I'd like to share my work for anyone else needing this graphic in a high resolution. I'm publishing the vector work as some graphics in various resolutions, including a super high one of 6400x6400. Both TIFF and JPEG are up on my server. As long as my server is up, these will be available. Makes for an awesome desktop background too!



Here's my original version, where the blue has a RGB value of 0-0-128
For some uses, this may be too bright.





Here's my second version, where the blue has a RGB value of 0-0-64






All files in various resolutions are available for download here:
http://www.aaronhorrocks.com/USCM/images/Emblem/


UPDATE 03/26/12:

Black added too.

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Very nice. Thanks!

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Isn't the background supposed to be black?

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you can't take the PUNK outa Spunkmeyer

Awesome. Will there be a Bug Stomper next?

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Kevin

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I don't plan on drafting up a bug stomper. That would be a massive amount of time to draw that up.


As far as the patch being Red, White, and Black instead of Blue, I don't know where that comes from.
There's a heck of a lot of refferences out there showing the patch as Red, White, and Blue:


http://www.colonialmarines.net/patches/patches.html

http://colonialmarines.wikispaces.com/Main

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aliens-Movie-St ... 0085812583

http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/s ... ild-3.html

http://www.thereplicapropforum.com/f11/ ... nly-40330/

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ ... 02-50.html

http://www.meta-cortex.com/index.php?ro ... duct_id=67

http://teenormous.com/search/nostromo_t-shirts

http://www.thefind.com/family/info-alien-patch

http://mercuryzero11.deviantart.com/art ... -122921325

http://www.zazzle.com/weyland+yutani+gifts

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Hate to say it but yeah, the screen used one's were black.

http://www.harryharris.com/delta.htm

Originally is was thought they were blue, especially since it's that colour in the technical manual but Harry showed us the errors of our ways.

TBH, I've always preferred the blue version. The dark blue is a nice compromise between the bright blue you see every where and the SA black.

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It says on Harry's site thaty only Drake and Apone wore the Delta?

I'm positive that it was also displayed on Hicks left breast pocket "TUNIC"

-Callum

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Aaron, all of the links you posted are inaccurate (essentially fan art) reproductions and not screen used.

I believe the mistake comes from an assumption by the mass produced Delta patches- the maker assumed that because it is a round "Stars and Bars" it should have the same colours of the American Flag.

We thought the Delta was blue as well (like forever) until maybe 6 or 7 years ago when we started understanding it was black. As already mentioned Harry (as well as Mike Rush who made screen accurate Delta pins) opened our eyes.

This isn't to say that your work is not appreciated.


Vito- yes Hicks had a Delta on his uniform:





Kevin

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But also, they are sweet looking Delta's Aaron!! =]

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If you guys were ever on the SciFiMilitary forums, you may recall a debate I was in (like forever ago) that basically came down to questioning the vary accuracy of “screen accuracy”.

Apparently the screen used patches were silk screened, (all or some, I forget the details), so guys wanted silk screen patches. However every military patch, like, ever made, has always been embroidered. I also pointed out that if you’re going to be in a future military, they’re probably still going to be rocking actual embroidered patches. A problem making a movie is, to do a run of embroidered patches for costumes, there’s usually a minimum order requirement of 200 or 250 or even more, which is pointless if you’re only filming a couple of squads. And there’s leadtimes, and the costs are higher, etc, etc… If you’re making a movie, and you need say 10 patches (or even less than that), silk-screening is the way to go. Turn-around time is minimal, usually same-day, and revisions can be done easily. Also, the cost is very low by comparison, which is always a concern on set. Also on a movie set, you don’t have to worry about the silk-screened patches fading or falling apart, because depending on filming the costumes may only get washed a few times, if at all.

Just because the patch came out black (or super-dark blue), it doesn’t mean that’s what they intended for it to be. It could have been submitted as navy Blue, but after printed it turned out black. This was in the 1980s, after all. I had a professional navy blue back drop in my garage since the mid 80s, and when I filmed in front of it, it always turned out black on film. Even into the late 90’s when home video cameras starting getting fairly good.
Heck the original sketches of the weapons and vehicles were quite a bit different than what ended up on the screen. The prop guys had to take the concepts and drawings, and turn them into real world items, using existing platforms.

Anyhow, it’s not that difficult to change the colors. I drew up all this stuff in vectors. I just have to re-render everything a couple times. I even made a hot pink “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” version for Dom...

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You know what I checked into my massive archive of 'USCM' and 'Aliens' related images and found my Delta's I've found online over the years to be sorely lacking.

Thanks Aaron...saved for future reference and use (in blueand black)

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I disagree. James Cameron is such a detail oriented nit-picker of a filmmaker, I can't believe the patches would have
been black if he didn't WANT them to be black. I always operated under the understanding that the "black" field was
to represent the black of space, since the USCM does operate "out there."



That's the difference between consumer VIDEO electronics and professional 35mm FILM stock, light metered at filming and
professionally processed after filming.

Until recently (last... 15-20 years or so) you could never get "professional" cinematic results from off the shelf consumer
grade video cameras with a single processing chip costing under $3,000. Now you can get 3 CCD cameras in that price range
that will give you much better results.

Also, keep in mind your garage projects didn't have a 50 million dollar budget. I imagine getting things silk screened in 1985
didn't take that long, especially for a company with a movie studio production contract. The patches I had dye-sublimated
last fall took about 2-3 weeks, from final art approval to having them in hand ready to trim. And part of that delay time was
my fault.

Anyhow, back on topic... Nice graphic!

Not so sure about the hot pink though.

Russ

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just from a professional hobbyist and painter, I would say, from http://www.harryharris.com/delta.htm looks like true Navy blue, not black. So if the badge TRULY is black, (which seems to be the consensus) a better pic should be used as evidence. Also shared it wa sa product designer and professional model maker I know, who is FAR better with colour than I and he thought the pic was blue

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Read it here!

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6120506/1/Aliens-Heart-of-Darkness

I hasten to add, I am NOT saying it's not black, just saying that picture is not a defining bit of evidence

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Read it here!

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6120506/1/Aliens-Heart-of-Darkness

Cheers for posting these up Mr H

#Sets wallpaper

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Color accuracy issue aside, you did one hell of a job on the graphics Aaron. Those high res deltas really pop. As an "old school" graphic artist I used to do logos & stuff like this by hand, so I can appreciate the effort you put into rendering these, even with the modern tools at your disposal. When you have a chance, how 'bout adding a couple of high res variants w/black backgrounds? Then you'll have all bases covered.

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This is not 100% spot on, but close. Made sense to add it to Aaron's great logo.
Enjoy.
-SJ

It is black.

There are several members here who have seen or own screen used costumes.

And I'm a product designer...


I have all the badge line art in vector format, and so do some others.


So, Not everything out there is inaccurate.

Black emblems uploaded. First Post updated.

As far as the colors, and the multi-million dollar buget point... I have ALWAYS thought that the USCM camo was a hue or shade of green. Even rewatching it on a better TV with the Special Edition DVD, it appears to be a faded green based camo.

Then I saw Harry's site:
http://www.harryharris.com/bdu.htm
http://www.harryharris.com/camo.htm
...And I thought, really? They're brown???

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thanks for the links !

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But the people who own the original items and thus took said photos of the very same, are all the evidence you need!



I use 'Screen Accurate' and 'Screen Used' as two separate terms.

In this instance:
Screen Used is what colour something actually was, when it was used on screen.
Screen Accurate is what colour it ended up looking on screen, through the camera, after all the filters, post-production and so on have been applied.
Case in point - PRs were painted Brown Bess, but appear Olive Drab (roughly). Hence the unending debate about that one.

So yeah, an item could have been purple with yellow dots in real life, but if it appears as brown with green dots then that's what you're going for.

Or just produce two versions of everything to keep everyone happy!