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Author:  welshdragontrooper [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:17 pm ]
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Hi guys.

As a fun little project I hope to build a 1:6 scale remote sentry gun (maybe 2 :) ) to display with my Hot Toys figures.

I have been trawling the web for the past couple of hours looking for good refence images/schematics for the USCM remote sentry guns but have found very little. I gather there si some nice information in the Technical Journal, man I need to get me a copy!

I am partuclarly intreseted in getting some dimensions on the size of these guns. Fully deployed they look to stand at least 3 to 4 feet tall but thats about all I can gauge from watching the film.

Also, can anyone recommend a good DVD player I can download which allows you to take screen grabs. Then I can get some still images from the film itself at least.

Below are a couple of pics of my work in progress Hudson figure. It still needs an accurate head and the graffiti painted onto his helmet cover as well as some subtle weathering :)

Thanks guys!

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Author:  JediFraz [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:19 pm ]
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As far as I remember there's really not any sentry pics or drawings in the Tech manual. There's some concept art floating around and there's many pics taken of the surviving one from NSC last year but plans.. Not really.

Maybe time for another group project?
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Author:  Airborne Mike [ Thu May 31, 2007 4:29 pm ]
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Harry is the one you seek. harryharris.com He has one from the movie.

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Author:  Harry Harris [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:53 am ]
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Quote:He has one from the movie.

Erm... read again!

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Author:  Airborne Mike [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:27 am ]
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From Harry's site:
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Seen only in the Special Edition. Practical remote-controlled unit, built around the same machine-gun as the smart-guns, the German MG-42. This item is not part of the Harry Harris collection.

From Harry:
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Quote:Erm... read again!

From Mike:
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:shock: Sorry Harry. My bad.

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Author:  Rook 3 [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:58 am ]
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And just to recap, I didn't take these photos, just saved them for my own use, and am sharing them in return. Photo rights are owned by those who took them.

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Enjoy!

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Author:  b26354 [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:00 am ]
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And you can use the 1/6th scale smartgun from the Vasquez or Drake figures for size reference.
Jon
Author:  welshdragontrooper [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:45 pm ]
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Wow, thanks for the great photos Russ! Terrific reference there.

This project seems alittle daunting now though, it sure is a complex piece of kit lol

I will indeed be using a smart gun for size reference but I will also be butchering one to make up some of the gun's parts, the ammo drum and barrel for example.

Thanks again guys!
Author:  tonyandcherie [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:09 pm ]
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Prop Store here in the UK has one that one of the guys made

VERY sweet IMHO but he wouldn't sell.

Best ref photos Russ has just posted as they are clear with a light background rather than the dark screen caps.

I'm looking to make a 1:1 scale one once I have the suitable workshop to build it in.
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Author:  Rook 3 [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:53 pm ]
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I believe Dragon (or one of the other 1:6 scale companies) makes an MG42, so you could butcher that rather than hacking up one of the Hot Toys smartguns.

Russ

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Author:  model shop guy [ Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:49 am ]
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Dragon do a very good 1/6 scale MG42 i used one to build a smartgun a few years back... i picked mine up at a Mart (cheshunt) ... best look on e-bay they are always selling Dragon stuff on there, just type in mg42 or you could contact someone like ... modellers loft they are the countries main stockist of Dragon figures
Author:  JediFraz [ Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:47 am ]
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Well from another prop project In have in the works.. If someone has a 3d model of it..?
There is a way of making a base to build up from.


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Author:  model shop guy [ Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:22 am ]
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Were some of those photo's of the sentry gun taken at the Alien convention at Bristol in 1995? as i can remember there being on there.... :roll:
Author:  Rook 3 [ Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:21 pm ]
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I believe that's where most of those images came from.

Russ

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Author:  JediFraz [ Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:52 pm ]
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Only pic I have available at the moment...

NSC Sentry Gun Pic
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Author:  welshdragontrooper [ Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:09 pm ]
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Thanks for the great photo Jedi!

I am struggling with getting the dimensions right and your pic will help alot.

I made a card mockup yesterday just to try and figure out the basic shape and size. Im fairly happy with the shape but it is well undersize. This isnt a majr problem though as I can just scale up the panels I have already drawn up. Let me know what you think guys.

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Author:  MedwayPVB [ Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:08 pm ]
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Using the Hot Toys model and the pic from Jedi as a guide, this is the sort of scale you're after:

[img]http://www.medwaypvb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/scans/alien6.jpg[/img]

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Author:  JediFraz [ Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:04 pm ]
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Im 5'6" if it helps..:)
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Author:  tonyandcherie [ Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:16 pm ]
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If you make more than 1 I'll happily trade it for some green paper :) <span style="font-size:xx-small;](money)
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Author:  paul kitching [ Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:11 pm ]
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Quote:
Quote:Were some of those photo's of the sentry gun taken at the Alien convention at Bristol in 1995? as i can remember there being on there....


Yep, they are from the video I took on the day (hence the low quality).

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Author:  model shop guy [ Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:43 pm ]
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hey... i might be on that video...:D .... i took a video camera with me on the day... will have to see if i still have the tape somewhere..
Author:  welshdragontrooper [ Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:35 pm ]
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Thanks for the composition Medway, the scale in that photo looks spot on.

I am almost done making another card mockup which hopefully hits the mark size-wise. The problem Im having is that the card is alittle to thin and flimsy so it doenst hold its shape terribly well lol, but its good enough for a rough guide I guess.

Hey Tony I doubt that my end result would be worth your hard earned cash buddy. I havent built a model kit in years and have never scratchbuilt so I am not expecing too much from this project lol It should be fun though :)

Thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated.
Author:  dropshipbob [ Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:50 pm ]
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EVA Models also makes a very accurate 1:6th scale smartgun, and is probably a bit cheaper than buying one of the HT smartgunners with the gun parted out.
Author:  model shop guy [ Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:58 pm ]
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Keep us updated on the sentry gun.... what are you going to make the final from? plastic card? i would have made it from small blocks of wood to give it bulk and strength... then cover it in plastic card.
Author:  welshdragontrooper [ Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:56 pm ]
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Ive made another card mockup after the other one turned out to be way too small lol Its kinda hard to gauge the size comparoson in the pics but I think its close enough. The main body will sit higher for real, I just grabed some pots to give it some elevation. Its really rough looking and I was too lazy to finish off some of the detail. I wont bother mocking up the tripod as I dont have the material and it seems straight forward enough.

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Still, it has everything I need in terms of reference to go ahead and attempt this little project. Thanks for the advice Model_Shop_Guy . . . its a really good idea to build the main body around a piece of wood because even with sheet styrene, I think it would be rather flimsy and wobbly otherwise lol. It will take me a while to get all the material I need so this will be on hiatus for a couple of weeks I guess. However, I am determined to see this through as I have done way too many half arsed and abandoned projects in the past lol
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