Oh heck yeah, I'm sure they want to diversify the celebs attending....makes for a better crowd draw I suppose.
"How lucky are the few who know where they belong."

But FANFILM actors? Sheesh.

What are you talking about?

I'm really looking forward to meeting the actor playing "young Mr. Spock".

[/end sarcasm]


Kevin

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"I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself, it wants to hide inside an imitation. If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies, nobody left to kill it. And then it's won."

Heck, they'll have most of the crew of TAPS there! Talk about riding the crest of popularity.

Okay, I just want to know who the rocket scientist was at DC that thought that actors from a TRUE genre classic like "Aliens" were less important than the cast of "Happy Days." Ralph Malf and Potsy? At Dragon Con? WTH?

Talk about "Jumping the shark..."

Russ



"There's nothing worse than people desperate to have fun."
-Patton OswaltEdited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rook3>Rook 3[/url] at: 7/28/06 9:38 pm

Count the freckily red head guys in plad shirts and we'll see
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You guys are leaving out the most important one - RIP TAYLOR is going to be there!

Ralph Malf and Potsy= cheap celebrities.

AKA: "I don't think I'm doing any projects at the moment (IE this century)... Sure I'll come to Dragon Con! Pay? You want to pay me? Just give me a meal or two and some free booze."

[/end further sarcasm]

Hell last year they had the blond what's-her-face from "Too Close for Comfort". Real Sci-Fi/Anime/Horror connection there.



To be honest, I'd rather see Danny Bonaduce- at least he would be interesting to talk to.


Kevin

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"I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself, it wants to hide inside an imitation. If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies, nobody left to kill it. And then it's won."

Edited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=ssgtburton>SSgt Burton[/url]  at: 7/29/06 6:46 am

Who's Rip Taylor? You don't mean Rip Torn do you? He at least has been in a sci-fi movie at least once.

Russ



"There's nothing worse than people desperate to have fun."
-Patton Oswalt

Rook...prepare yourself....




www.riptaylor.com


Derek
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Is it just me or does the majority of the pictures in his gallery look like he has just photoshopped himself into them?
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No kidding! WTF!?! This is like someone's idea of a sick and cruel joke gone terribly awry. Next thing you know they'll be booking Rip Torn.

Ahhhhhhhhg!!!

And Rip Torn too!?! Oh the humanity!!!

I only remember him from Sid & Marty Krofft's Sigmund & the Seamonsters. Otherwise from his gallery it looks as though his celebrity status only comes from being seen with 'other' celebrities.
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You guys should be making these complaints to DragonCon. I was also pretty offended that fan film people were being given perks over actual, established actors. And while I can't say for sure, the fact is there is only so much money in the budget for guests, and it seems like they chose the Trek guys over the Aliens guys.

Remember, unless someone tells DragonCon differently, they currently assume everyone wants to see Fan Film Folk over Aliens Folk.

Just an FYI.


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You mean something like this... ?



Sent to dragoncon@dragoncon.org

Russ



"There's nothing worse than people desperate to have fun."
-Patton OswaltEdited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rook3>Rook 3[/url] at: 7/31/06 7:06 am

Great, now get 5,000 more people to send similar letters and we'll be all set!

Be sure to also mail it to:

[url=mailto:dcguest@bellsouth.net]dcguest@bellsouth.net[/url]

[url=mailto:mischahess@yahoo.com]mischahess@yahoo.com[/url]

[url=mailto:aarondunne@juno.com]aarondunne@juno.com[/url]

[url=mailto:rnastrom@earthlink.net]rnastrom@earthlink.net[/url]

phenry@mylink.net

For some reason the Pat Henry E-Mail address is glitched, so just copy and paste. Sorry.


Always remember, the general mailbox is usually deleted and not read, you have to e-mail the department heads that have something to do with that type of programming, and the chairman of DragonCon directly if you want anyone to know that you have a complaint.

[url=mailto:P henry@mylink.net]phenry@mylink.net[/url]
-Spat
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Definately send it to the phenry address

I've already sent mine in
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Done.
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You guys are all celebs in my book. I'm just happy I can make it to DC.
Outstanding. Now all we need is a deck of cards.

I'll be selling my 8x10s in the Marriott.

I'll even personally sign them at no extra charge for you grunts.


Kevin

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"I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself, it wants to hide inside an imitation. If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies, nobody left to kill it. And then it's won."

Part of the problem may well be that the actors from Aliens may not have "convention agents", and the Happy Days crew do - probably the same rep.

The last decade or so, convention agents have sprung up, and specialize in getting clients like Donny Most into conventions to sell and sign pictures. I hear they might a tidy income.

I remember seeing John Delancey in Pittsburgh like 8 years ago, and he was being a real jerk to the people in line, not speaking to them, not looking at them, he even threw one of his pictures off the table after signing it because a father protested to his refusal to take a picture with his 12 year old son - for free. He demanded $20 to take the picture. The father refused, and the picture was slid off the table and into the air.

Anyway, later on while I was speaking to the folks running the show, they mentioned speaking to his convention agent, and the agent told them he was being dropped for acting this way at other conventions. Turns out he was also being a jerk to the staff as well.

I had no idea, but leanred that day all about "convention agents".

I have no idea if this is the case here, just thought I'd throw it into the fray for discussion.

EDIT: I'd like to say that 10 minutes later Tom Savini not only took pictures with the father and son for free, but he gave the kid a free Fx lesson and showed him how to make a fake bruise on his arm with his mothers eye shadow. The kid was flipping out, I'd wager that made his day.

And maybe it was more like 10 years ago - geez, I'm getting old. Back in the day when I attended shows with my comic cooks.
Edited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=noeland>Noeland[/url] at: 7/30/06 11:05 pm

Convention agents are part of the problem, but most conventions hate dealing with them. The con would much rather make a deal directly with an actor than have to do everything third party through any kind of rep. Also, the rep will always ask for more perks and more money than the celeb will alone (since the agent will often want a free hotel room as well).

I think the big problem here is with DragonCon not taking the fans desires into consideration. The people in charge of booking the celebs may personally like Happy Days better than Aliens and that makes a huge difference as to who gets booked for shows. Unless there is a big fan outpouring, or the staff can look at another convention where these celebs showed up and the show had huge numbers of attendees, then there is little difference to them between Donny Most and Al Matthews. In fact, they would nine times out of ten choose Most over Matthews because Most has a chance of drawing in people who were fans of Happy Days, but who normally wouldn't go to a sci-fi convention, and that means more money. Aliens fans were going to DragonCon either way.

DragonCon has changed a lot over the last few years, and I myself am butting heads with them over the costume contests (they want the Miss SpatCave contest to be PG and more family oriented for some reason), and thier choices of celebrity guests (Star Trek Fan Film nerds?!?!?!).

I think it may be time for the US Aliens fans to step up and put together thier own show the way the UK fans did. I'm sure there are enough people who can pitch in one way or another to help launch it.

And as mentioned above, do whatever you can to get your voice heard by the convention so they know what the fans want.


-Spat
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E-mailed all the addresses. Thanks Spat!

Also, be sure to spell check. I can't believe I misspelled Hollywood the first time. Sheesh.

Russ



"There's nothing worse than people desperate to have fun."
-Patton Oswalt

Speaking of fan film actor attendees...

They booked some nerd who played
"Tie Pilot#3" , in SW: Revelations.


oh... wait a sec.

Agreed ... but when I made such a proposal to the DC folks I got the big cold ignorant NIH answer. It's their game and their ball, and they call the shots.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

VBR,
Chris
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I'll take twenty-five.
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More ammo/wake up call, for folks who may still want to appeal to the DC organizers ...

From:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_(movie)
concerning the "Impact" of ALIENS.

<< The depiction of the female characters, especially Ripley and the ultra-macho Private Vasquez, as fearless warriors made a considerable impression in the North American perception of women in action films, particularly in futuristic science fiction. The medic, Corporal Dietrich, and Pilot Ferro both demonstrated a professional competence in their military roles, a major difference from previous films in which most females lacked such strength and apparent sense of duty. Since Aliens, it grew to be expected in futuristic stories that the female characters be as ready to bear arms and do battle on an equal basis with the male characters.
The film heavily influenced many later science fiction works to depict a more realistic world that looks 'lived in': while in Star Trek, the sets and equipment usually look pristine, in Aliens they look 'banged up', like they've been given makeshift repairs over time. The film is often cited as an influence by writers and video-game designers who are designing a realistic-looking, near-future military. The Colonial Marine Corps has been used as a template in the 1995-1996 TV series Space: Above and Beyond, the popular RTS computer game StarCraft and the Halo series. One also feels that the look of the Nebuchadnezzar of The Matrix trilogy owes much to the Sulaco.>>

VBR,
Chris
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